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    Adrian Beltre retires

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    Re: Interesting Baseball News Items That Do Not Warrant Their Own Thread

    A very cool baseball research story.

    https://baseballresearcher.blogspot....story.html?m=1

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    Re: Interesting Baseball News Items That Do Not Warrant Their Own Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by kan_t View Post
    A very cool baseball research story.

    https://baseballresearcher.blogspot....story.html?m=1
    Thanks for posting that.
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    Re: Interesting Baseball News Items That Do Not Warrant Their Own Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by kan_t View Post
    A very cool baseball research story.

    https://baseballresearcher.blogspot....story.html?m=1
    Awesome read.

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    Mike Napoli retires.

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    With a nice letter to his fans...

    https://www.masslive.com/redsox/inde...d_sox_ret.html
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    https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/m...s-and-cabrera/

    MLB's Get-Paid All-Stars: Ranking the 15 most player-friendly contracts in baseball, featuring Pujols and Cabrera

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    Re: Interesting Baseball News Items That Do Not Warrant Their Own Thread

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    If the MLBPA should sue the owners for collusion, this article should be Defense a Exhibit #1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longtimeyankeefan View Post
    If the MLBPA should sue the owners for collusion, this article should be Defense a Exhibit #1.

    “What, you can’t teach an old owner new knowledge?”
    There's totally gonna be a strike in 3 years.

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    Re: Interesting Baseball News Items That Do Not Warrant Their Own Thread

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    There's totally gonna be a strike in 3 years.
    If there is, baseball may never recover. It took a long time after 1994 to recover. Given the attention span of today's young fan, the absence of Major League Baseball for any material length of time could be a death knoll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by longtimeyankeefan View Post
    If there is, baseball may never recover. It took a long time after 1994 to recover. Given the attention span of today's young fan, the absence of Major League Baseball for any material length of time could be a death knoll.
    It may but the strike is coming. It's fine if the owners don't want to give out long term contract to FA. But at the same time the Players Union should ask for a lot higher pay in the first six year control the clubs have.

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    Re: Interesting Baseball News Items That Do Not Warrant Their Own Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by kan_t View Post
    It may but the strike is coming. It's fine if the owners don't want to give out long term contract to FA. But at the same time the Players Union should ask for a lot higher pay in the first six year control the clubs have.


    With the many injuries that players get these years especially to pitchers and with many of them career ending, long term contracts are extremely risky. I am all for keeping first year salaries to the league minimum of $555K. But depending on the players progress, he should be paid more than he is today. Perhaps binding arbitration is the answer with perhaps free agency possible after six years. But I firmly believe contract length must be limited to 5 -7 years.


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    Re: Interesting Baseball News Items That Do Not Warrant Their Own Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Nome View Post
    With the many injuries that players get these years especially to pitchers and with many of them career ending, long term contracts are extremely risky. I am all for keeping first year salaries to the league minimum of $555K. But depending on the players progress, he should be paid more than he is today. Perhaps binding arbitration is the answer with perhaps free agency possible after six years. But I firmly believe contract length must be limited to 5 -7 years.


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    Didn't you just describe today's CBA? League minumum salary, then arbitration for years 3 - 6, followed by free agency?
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    Re: Interesting Baseball News Items That Do Not Warrant Their Own Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by longtimeyankeefan View Post
    If there is, baseball may never recover. It took a long time after 1994 to recover. Given the attention span of today's young fan, the absence of Major League Baseball for any material length of time could be a death knoll.
    Revenues are higher than ever and this year salaries had a net decrease. I don't see how they players let this system stay in place.

    The NBA had a lockout recently didn't it (I don't follow basketball) and it seems to be doing better than ever.

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    Re: Interesting Baseball News Items That Do Not Warrant Their Own Thread

    I think it's interesting that teams can still pay "minimum" salaries to high performers simply because they are young/haven't been in the league. The tanking we are seeing and the move towards the cost-controlled younger players might be alleviated by calling the arbitration years "comparable league performance average" salary years.

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    Take 5 stat categories per position that can be agreed upon by the MLBPA & MLB, figure out the average salary of Non-arb players who had the same stats in each of those categories within 2%, then average again. Still need minimums for injuries and other situations.

    A floor imo is not a good way to regulate salaries and merely increases salaries for fringe FA's.
    If you make arbitration a fixed number based on a players performance to the league it does a few things:
    A tanking team still has to pay a young superstar, thereby reducing the benefit of tanking
    Increases general player share of revenues
    I could see trades of younger high-performance players who are arb eligble being more regular (not sure if good or bad)

    Detriments:
    I could see tanking teams keeping a high potential player in the minors longer so the arb clock does not start

    Thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ruthianblast View Post
    I think it's interesting that teams can still pay "minimum" salaries to high performers simply because they are young/haven't been in the league. The tanking we are seeing and the move towards the cost-controlled younger players might be alleviated by calling the arbitration years "comparable league performance average" salary years.

    Outline
    Take 5 stat categories per position that can be agreed upon by the MLBPA & MLB, figure out the average salary of Non-arb players who had the same stats in each of those categories within 2%, then average again. Still need minimums for injuries and other situations.

    A floor imo is not a good way to regulate salaries and merely increases salaries for fringe FA's.
    If you make arbitration a fixed number based on a players performance to the league it does a few things:
    A tanking team still has to pay a young superstar, thereby reducing the benefit of tanking
    Increases general player share of revenues
    I could see trades of younger high-performance players who are arb eligble being more regular (not sure if good or bad)

    Detriments:
    I could see tanking teams keeping a high potential player in the minors longer so the arb clock does not start

    Thoughts?

    That already happens under the current system. I guess it could become even more prevalent to some degree. I do agree that something needs to change.

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    Re: Interesting Baseball News Items That Do Not Warrant Their Own Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by freebubba View Post
    That already happens under the current system. I guess it could become even more prevalent to some degree. I do agree that something needs to change.
    True, under the above it might get slightly worse.
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    Re: Interesting Baseball News Items That Do Not Warrant Their Own Thread

    https://www.theringer.com/mlb/2019/1...-harper-murray

    Good article about the gap between owners and players that will only grow as they inch closer to the end of the CBA.

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    Manny Machado and Bryce Harper remain unsigned. One of the sport’s best catchers had to settle for a one-year deal. Kyler Murray might play another sport if he can’t get paid. Only the players can fix this, but to do so, they’ll have to risk a work stoppage they’re not currently prepared to win.

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    Need a strike

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    More people have walked on the moon than have scored an earned run off of Mariano Rivera in the postseason.

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    Mike Trout's gonna be rich.

    Star center fielder Mike Trout and the Los Angeles Angels are finalizing the largest contract in professional sports history, a 12-year deal worth more than $430 million that will smash previous records and could keep the greatest player of his generation with the Angels for the remainder of his career, sources familiar with the deal told ESPN.
    http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/2...430m-extension

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Mxylsplk View Post

    I fixed that for you - he was already set to make over $145m through 2020.

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    That's nuts. Glad he's not going to Philly though.

    I wonder what the insurance is like on a contract like this?

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    http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/2...y-john-surgery

    Looks like Fulmer is going to need TJS...glad the Yanks didnt go that route in a trade
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