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    Peyton Manning near unanimous MVP

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1963651

    Michael Vick received the other vote. Yes, Michael Vick, he of the 78.1 QB rating...

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    Re: Peyton Manning near unanimous MVP

    Atlanta writer I presume...congrats Peyton!

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    What a shocker! I am floored
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    Congrats Manning...now lets see you win when it really matters...On the road in January.

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    Re: Peyton Manning near unanimous MVP

    Congrats Peyton on your second straight MVP.

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    Congrats on your 2nd straight MVP, Peyton!

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    Re: Peyton Manning near unanimous MVP

    Not really a surprise, what dumbass voted for Vick over Peyton?
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    Re: Peyton Manning near unanimous MVP

    Now let's see if this guy can win the big game. We have known for a long time since Tennessee that he was a hell of a QB. But he couldn't beat Florida. Now let's see if he can finally beat the Pats. Even if he beats them, he still needs to win the SB to complete what would be the best season ever by a QB. He's not there yet.
    Dem ol' grimy Jets...

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    Re: Peyton Manning near unanimous MVP

    Quote Originally Posted by ruthianblast
    Not really a surprise, what dumbass voted for Vick over Peyton?
    writer from Detroit defends his pick

    http://www.detnews.com/2005/lions/0501/11/f01-56421.htm

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    Re: Peyton Manning near unanimous MVP

    Quote Originally Posted by pjfan
    writer from Detroit defends his pick

    http://www.detnews.com/2005/lions/0501/11/f01-56421.htm
    What an idiot. Yes, Vick is crucial to Atlanta but not having an adequate backup screwed them as much as anything last year. Gee, I wonder if Indy would be as good without Peyton in the lineup?

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    Re: Peyton Manning near unanimous MVP

    Quote Originally Posted by PlsDontTearDownY.S.
    Now let's see if this guy can win the big game. We have known for a long time since Tennessee that he was a hell of a QB. But he couldn't beat Florida. Now let's see if he can finally beat the Pats. Even if he beats them, he still needs to win the SB to complete what would be the best season ever by a QB. He's not there yet.
    Yes. Barry Bonds still needs to lead his team to a World Series victory in order to really be considered a great baseball player. We all know that individuals win championships, not teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PlsDontTearDownY.S.
    Now let's see if this guy can win the big game. We have known for a long time since Tennessee that he was a hell of a QB. But he couldn't beat Florida. Now let's see if he can finally beat the Pats. Even if he beats them, he still needs to win the SB to complete what would be the best season ever by a QB. He's not there yet.
    He *has* won big games, he just hasn't been able to beat the Pats. They are a very good team, they have a very good defense, etc. so yeah, he, like many other QB's, teams, has struggled against them. Also, whether he and the Colts beat the Pats or not (it's not just about Peyton beating them, it's a *team* effort), he still at least had the best regular season ever by a QB. Some people think you have to win the SB to be considered a great, one of the best ever, etc. QB's, and some don't. Personally, I don't. Winning the SB is a *team* effort, no one QB can do it alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bakntime
    Yes. Barry Bonds still needs to lead his team to a World Series victory in order to really be considered a great baseball player. We all know that individuals win championships, not teams.
    Baseball and football are miles apart in this case. A single player has much more value in football than in baseball. Manning controls the ball on every offensive play, or about 60 times a game. Barry Bonds is lucky to face 4 good pitches a night.
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    Re: Peyton Manning near unanimous MVP

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    Baseball and football are miles apart in this case. A single player has much more value in football than in baseball. Manning controls the ball on every offensive play, or about 60 times a game. Barry Bonds is lucky to face 4 good pitches a night.

    Good point...It would be much differnet if Manning goes down than if Bonds goes down. Bonds play Left Field and sees 4 At bats a game. Manning IS the offense!
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    Re: Peyton Manning near unanimous MVP

    Quote Originally Posted by S2
    Baseball and football are miles apart in this case. A single player has much more value in football than in baseball. Manning controls the ball on every offensive play, or about 60 times a game. Barry Bonds is lucky to face 4 good pitches a night.
    The point is still valid, and certainly not "miles apart." The quarterback may be more influential than a single offensive baseball player, but football teams consist of a much larger number of players, and need to execute on offense, defense, and special teams to win.

    Manning is no more influential than a starting pitcher on the given day that he pitches. If his offense doesn't hit for him and gets shut out, how can the starting pitcher win? Peyton and the offense can score 30-40 points, but if the opposition scores more, then they'll lose.

    No single player wins a game in any team sport without some supporting cast. Peyton Manning is the best QB in football right now. Anyone who wants to dispute that fact by saying he "hasn't won anything," especially a Sox fan, should take a look at how they used to defend Pedro, Manny, etc, against the same accusations before the Sox won in 2004.

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    Re: Peyton Manning near unanimous MVP

    Quote Originally Posted by bakntime
    The point is still valid, and certainly not "miles apart." The quarterback may be more influential than a single offensive baseball player, but football teams consist of a much larger number of players, and need to execute on offense, defense, and special teams to win.

    Manning is no more influential than a starting pitcher on the given day that he pitches. If his offense doesn't hit for him and gets shut out, how can the starting pitcher win? Peyton and the offense can score 30-40 points, but if the opposition scores more, then they'll lose.

    No single player wins a game in any team sport without some supporting cast. Peyton Manning is the best QB in football right now. Anyone who wants to dispute that fact by saying he "hasn't won anything," especially a Sox fan, should take a look at how they used to defend Pedro, Manny, etc, against the same accusations before the Sox won in 2004.
    That still doesn't dismiss the notion that the single most dominant force in other sports (Shaq, Manning) have more to do with their teams success (or lackethereof when said player is hurt) than the single most dominant offensive player in baseball (Bonds).

    And Bonds has been historically ridiculous for 4 straight years now, with only 2 postseason appearances to hang his hat on. You can argue that if Manning puts up ridiculous numbers (or any other player in football, Faulk, Warner, Sanders, etc) 4 straight years, then his team will be in the postseason 4 straight years.
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    Re: Peyton Manning near unanimous MVP

    Quote Originally Posted by S2
    Baseball and football are miles apart in this case. A single player has much more value in football than in baseball. Manning controls the ball on every offensive play, or about 60 times a game. Barry Bonds is lucky to face 4 good pitches a night.
    I'm going to fundamentally agree with you, sorta. Manning can't win a game all by himself, but it sure is within his power to LOSE it all by himself. If he plays well, that doesn't necessarily win the Colts the game, but if he chokes, the Colts are finished guaranteed. Winning is a team effort, which isn't necessarily the case with respect to losing.
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    Re: Peyton Manning near unanimous MVP

    Peyton is just a placeholder until Eli becomes the perennial MVP.
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    Re: Peyton Manning near unanimous MVP

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    Peyton is just a placeholder until Eli becomes the perennial MVP.
    Oh, good grief.
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    Oh, good grief.
    I guess you didn't get my dry wit.
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    Re: Peyton Manning near unanimous MVP

    The person who voted for Vick should have his voting privileges revoked.
    SJW - bad attempt at insulting people that care about other's rights and not just their own.

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    Re: Peyton Manning near unanimous MVP

    Quote Originally Posted by GoRocket
    The person who voted for Vick should have his voting privileges revoked.
    Along with his eyes, ears and brain examined.

    Congrats to Peyton on being the MVP 2 years in a row! Go Colts!

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    Re: Peyton Manning near unanimous MVP

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    I guess you didn't get my dry wit.
    No, I did, but I'm certain at least 35% of your brain believes it. I've seen you talk like that too many times to believe it's 100% a joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaBoys4LifeNYY35
    No, I did, but I'm certain at least 35% of your brain believes it. I've seen you talk like that too many times to believe it's 100% a joke.
    Honestly, I don't, but I want to.
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    Re: Peyton Manning near unanimous MVP

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich
    Peyton is just a placeholder until Eli becomes the perennial MVP.

    Eli does remind me of Tom Brady.
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