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    2020-2021 offseason thread

    So who is staying and who is going?

    BTW who was telling the yankees to swing on 3-0?

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    Cashman must go. He has done some things really well. He hasn’t delivered a WS in too long. And therein lies the rub, he doesn’t see his job as brining home Championships. Instead, he wants to build the bestest farm system and refuse to use it.
    Jay Buhner for Ken Phelps!?!?

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    Bring me Bauer. He wants a one year deal. Give him Tanaka’s money ++

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpao89 View Post
    Cashman must go. He has done some things really well. He hasn’t delivered a WS in too long. And therein lies the rub, he doesn’t see his job as brining home Championships. Instead, he wants to build the bestest farm system and refuse to use it.
    Who would replace him ?
    More people have walked on the moon than have scored an earned run off of Mariano Rivera in the postseason.

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    Who would replace him ?
    Someone better. Why does he have a lifetime job?

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    Bring me Bauer. He wants a one year deal. Give him Tanaka’s money ++
    Agree 100%, problem is that's not what's going to happen.

    Cashman will use that money to re-sign Gardner and Tanaka. He'll probably trade Frazier for bullpen arms and try to lowball DJ. Nothing creative to see here, folks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zimmer's Helmet View Post
    Agree 100%, problem is that's not what's going to happen.

    Cashman will use that money to re-sign Gardner and Tanaka. He'll probably trade Frazier for bullpen arms and try to lowball DJ. Nothing creative to see here, folks.
    Oh man. I hope this is the end for Gardner.

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    Re: 2020-2021 offseason thread

    Ultimately injuries/suspensions and CB Buckner was the difference to me. Losing Paxton, Severino, German, and Kahne proved to overly weaken our pitching. Judge never got his timing back post his injury. Despite that, if not for CB Buckner, we likely would have won in 4 (ignoring Michael Kay's "fallacy of the predetermined outcome")

    Rays also did a great job. Congrats to them. Sad that this team was unable to meet its preseason potential.

    Severino, German, and Kahne will be key to next year's success. Wonder if the Yanks will have the guts to not sign a major SP and go with Cole, Severino, German, Garcia, and Montgomery as their starters (with Schmidt and King to back them up). High upside but high risk with that configuration. Doubt they will do it but I think maybe they should

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    Re: 2020-2021 offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Zimmer's Helmet View Post
    Agree 100%, problem is that's not what's going to happen.

    Cashman will use that money to re-sign Gardner and Tanaka. He'll probably trade Frazier for bullpen arms and try to lowball DJ. Nothing creative to see here, folks.
    When you put it that way, it doesn't sound so good to me as well.

    I believe (hope) DJ will be re-signed. I pray we bring another SP. Let Paxton go. Trade away Sevy and bring back someone who can hit for average.

    I can't really get too mad about tonight's outcome. I wish we had won game 2.

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    Someone better. Why does he have a lifetime job?
    Someone different, and with new ideas.
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    Oh man. I hope this is the end for Gardner.
    Gardy has done really well in this post-season. I can see him back for another season.

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    They have a lot to fix, and the wrong man to do it. The results don't change until that does.
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    Gardy has done really well in this post-season. I can see him back for another season.
    How about the previous 8 postseasons? How were those? Do you think using one postseason is a good way to evaluate a player moving forward?
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    How about the previous 8 postseasons? How were those? Do you think using one postseason is a good way to evaluate a player moving forward?
    Not really. But then again we traded for Brandon Drury.

    I have been saying for years that we need hitters that can get on base and hit for average.

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    Re: 2020-2021 offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Zimmer's Helmet View Post
    Agree 100%, problem is that's not what's going to happen.

    Cashman will use that money to re-sign Gardner and Tanaka. He'll probably trade Frazier for bullpen arms and try to lowball DJ. Nothing creative to see here, folks.
    This. It’s adorable that some of you think Cashman is going to make any significant moves this offseason.
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    Re: 2020-2021 offseason thread

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    They have a lot to fix, and the wrong man to do it. The results don't change until that does.

    Team hasn't been to WS in 11 seasons. We are creeping into 1981-1995 territory.

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    Re: 2020-2021 offseason thread

    It's time to move on from tanaka and gardner. Look for a new catcher, and get more power arms in the pen. Bauer is a must have for me, not sure what else right now. Oh and bring back DJL

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    Re: 2020-2021 offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Zimmer's Helmet View Post
    Agree 100%, problem is that's not what's going to happen.

    Cashman will use that money to re-sign Gardner and Tanaka. He'll probably trade Frazier for bullpen arms and try to lowball DJ. Nothing creative to see here, folks.
    I agree. But hope they don't lose DJ. If they do its possible they bring back Didi and move Torres back to 2B.

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    Re: 2020-2021 offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by matt2351 View Post
    Team hasn't been to WS in 11 seasons. We are creeping into 1981-1995 territory.
    Actually almost at the 64-76 territory.

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    Re: 2020-2021 offseason thread

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    Someone different, and with new ideas.
    Cashman has Hal's ear. Not going anywhere.

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    Re: 2020-2021 offseason thread

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    Actually almost at the 64-76 territory.

    That was before my time, Mike.


    But I remember the 81-95 era well.

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    Re: 2020-2021 offseason thread

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    Cashman has Hal's ear. Not going anywhere.
    I get it. The $258m team Hal bought got bested by one with a $78 payroll, and not just in a best of five, either.

    Apropos of nothing, I *loved* how the Rays were ballsy enough to go with three centerfielders for their OF in the 9th. Of course, the Yankees K’d twice and lined out to third, but it was cool to see a team do something like that.
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    I get it. The $258m team Hal bought got bested by one with a $78 payroll, and not just in a best of five, either.

    Apropos of nothing, I *loved* how the Rays were ballsy enough to go with three centerfielders for their OF in the 9th. Of course, the Yankees K’d twice and lined out to third, but it was cool to see a team do something like that.
    Yankees will never do something unorthodox. It's all about tradition in Bronx. I'm almost certain that Cash will try to keep the core intact even though this "core" hasn't proven anything yet.

    My guess is that Cash will bank on Sevy coming back, Gary returning to his rookie form and Gardy hanging around for one more year. Other than Bauer, there's not one SP who interests me. OK, maybe Carrasco.

    We did not get flattened by Rays. We came really close and probably would've won if Bucknor did not screw us.

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    The Cessa and Holder experiment needs to end. They need a middle relief core that can actually record outs.

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    The Cessa and Holder experiment needs to end. They need a middle relief core that can actually record outs.
    It’s true, but if Otto was worth a damn, we wouldn’t need to worry about it.

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