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    Re: The Official 2020 Playoff Push Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by YFIB View Post
    I don't know - it reminds me of the trends in basketball and football where teams are rethinking their composition, and how and where players play. Both the NBA and NFL seem to be thriving as they evolve. It seems to me that players will need to adjust to these strategies, and the best will adjust and continue to thrive.

    I have a much bigger problem with being sold that the 162 game season is necessary to separate the wheat from the chaff, and then letting more than half of the teams into the playoffs.
    The NFL has strict rules as to how many offensive linemen can lineup, where players must be on the field, etc, and the NBA, while it’s devolved into a three point shooting festival, does not have the same paradigm shift where teams can actually neutralize lefties.

    It’s not good for the sport.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ojo View Post
    The NFL has strict rules as to how many offensive linemen can lineup, where players must be on the field, etc, and the NBA, while it’s devolved into a three point shooting festival, does not have the same paradigm shift where teams can actually neutralize lefties.

    It’s not good for the sport.
    Defenses playing where players hit the ball is bad for the game? News to me.
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    Re: The Official 2020 Playoff Push Thread

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    Defenses playing where players hit the ball is bad for the game? News to me.
    It should be.
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    Re: The Official 2020 Playoff Push Thread

    Latest MLB Magic Numbers heading into September 16 games
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    Re: The Official 2020 Playoff Push Thread

    The Los Angeles Dodgers is the first team to clinch a playoff berth in the 2020 MLB Postseason after beating the San Diego Padres earlier, 7-5.
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    Re: The Official 2020 Playoff Push Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by ojo View Post
    The NFL has strict rules as to how many offensive linemen can lineup, where players must be on the field, etc, and the NBA, while it’s devolved into a three point shooting festival, does not have the same paradigm shift where teams can actually neutralize lefties.

    It’s not good for the sport.
    Sure, but look what teams have done on defense in both sports, which is what we are talking about. In football, defenses with no down lineman, replacing linebackers with safeties, etc., all in the name of stopping the other team from scoring. In basketball, traditional centers are becoming fewer and farther between, and guarding the three point line has become a priority.

    In both sports (as in baseball) defenses have responded to the data-driven trends that have optimized scoring. Why shouldn't baseball?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YFIB View Post
    Sure, but look what teams have done on defense in both sports, which is what we are talking about. In football, defenses with no down lineman, replacing linebackers with safeties, etc., all in the name of stopping the other team from scoring. In basketball, traditional centers are becoming fewer and farther between, and guarding the three point line has become a priority.

    In both sports (as in baseball) defenses have responded to the data-driven trends that have optimized scoring. Why shouldn't baseball?
    It’s not quite the same thing. The opportunity cost of doubling up on the team’s #1 wideout means the guy lined up in the slot on the other side of the field is going to be open. The offense moves the ball. The opportunity cost of moving the SS to shallow RF takes the power stroke out of Juan Soto’s bat, reducing him to launch angles and ground balls to the left side of the infield.

    I get what you’re saying, but it’s not good for the sport.
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    It should be.
    Maybe more hitters need the "hit 'em where they ain't hitting philosophy" and not get so concerned about where players are shifting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ojo View Post
    It’s not quite the same thing. The opportunity cost of doubling up on the team’s #1 wideout means the guy lined up in the slot on the other side of the field is going to be open. The offense moves the ball. The opportunity cost of moving the SS to shallow RF takes the power stroke out of Juan Soto’s bat, reducing him to launch angles and ground balls to the left side of the infield.

    I get what you’re saying, but it’s not good for the sport.
    You know we could go back to the days where hitters could ask the pitcher to throw the ball where they wanted it too. Was that bad for the game when they got rid of that rule in the 1800s?
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    You know we could go back to the days where hitters could ask the pitcher to throw the ball where they wanted it too. Was that bad for the game when they got rid of that rule in the 1800s?
    And you know what else is relevant to the discussion? The Grateful Dead were at its absolute best when Mickey Hart was exiled from the band.

    Seriously, I’m talking from the perspective of what is good for the sport. A quarterback who can only throw to one side of the field won’t be long for the NFL, as much as a point guard who cannot break to his L or R in the NBA. Dead pull hitters attract fans. SS’s pretending to be RF’s? Not so much.
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    And you know what else is relevant to the discussion? The Grateful Dead were at its absolute best when Mickey Hart was exiled from the band.

    Seriously, I’m talking from the perspective of what is good for the sport. A quarterback who can only throw to one side of the field won’t be long for the NFL, as much as a point guard who cannot break to his L or R in the NBA. Dead pull hitters attract fans. SS’s pretending to be RF’s? Not so much.
    I disagree. Machado's catch in the corner of RF was the best play of the season so far.
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    Re: The Official 2020 Playoff Push Thread

    Latest MLB Magic Numbers after September 16 games
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    Re: The Official 2020 Playoff Push Thread

    The Chicago White Sox is the second MLB team and the first AL club to clinch a playoff berth after a 4-3 win over the Minnesota Twins.
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    Re: The Official 2020 Playoff Push Thread

    Add the Tampa Bay Rays to the list of teams clinching a postseason spot after sweeping a doubleheader against the Baltimore Orioles.

    Teams that clinched a playoff berth
    American League: TBR and CWS
    National League: LAD
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    Re: The Official 2020 Playoff Push Thread

    How does the first round seeding work?
    It's possible that the Twins could finish with the 2nd or 3rd best record in AL if they pass Oak and/or TB but finish 2nd in the central behind ChiSox. Would they be the #4 seed as top 2nd place team or do they just go by record?


    It's also possible that Cleveland and Toronto (or Yankees) could both finiish with a better record than likely 2nd place Houston in the AL west or Seattle if they somehow catch Houston. would Houston be the 6 seed as the 3rd best 2nd place team or would they be the 8 seed based on actual record?


    There was also so crazy proposal talked about at start of the year where the #1 seed got to pick it's 1st round opponent, did that go through or did that fall away?

    EDIT found the answer
    Sixteen teams — eight in each league — will qualify for the playoffs. The first three seeds (1-3) in each league will go to division winners, ordered by record. The second trio of seeds (4-6) go to the second-place finishers in each division, ordered by record. The final two seeds (7-8) go to the two wild-card teams.
    So it's possible the #3 seed could get an "easier" opponent than the #1 & #2 seed based on record
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    Re: The Official 2020 Playoff Push Thread

    The #1 seed picking their opponent was part of the original playoff format before the pandemic.

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    Re: The Official 2020 Playoff Push Thread

    Teams that clinched a playoff berth heading into September 19 games

    American League: TBR, CWS and OAK
    National League: LAD (Clinched home field for Wild Card series)

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    Re: The Official 2020 Playoff Push Thread

    2020 MLB Postseason Seeding Standings heading into September 19 games
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    The Cincinnati Reds overtake the San Francisco Giants for the eighth seed in the National League with a six-game winning streak, but have eight games remaining.
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    Re: The Official 2020 Playoff Push Thread

    Teams that clinched a playoff berth heading into September 20 games

    American League: TBR, CWS, MIN and OAK
    National League: LAD (Clinched home field for Wild Card series)

    Eliminated from the playoff picture
    American League: N/A
    National League: PIT

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    Re: The Official 2020 Playoff Push Thread

    Add the New York Yankees and San Diego Padres to the 2020 MLB Postseason party!

    The Padres beat the Seattle Mariners 7-4 in 11 innings.

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    Teams that clinched a playoff berth heading into September 20 games

    American League: TBR, CWS, MIN, NYY and OAK
    National League: LAD (Clinched home field for Wild Card series), SDP

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    American League: N/A
    National League: PIT
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    Re: The Official 2020 Playoff Push Thread

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    The Padres beat the Seattle Mariners 7-4 in 11 innings.
    I watched the last two outs on MLB.TV. I wonder if it is the first game that clinched the playoffs for at least one team in each league. That wasn't possible when all teams played interleague at the same time in May, June, or July.

    The AL could have all spots clinched before the final series. Houston is at Seattle for three. If Houston wins at least two, Houston and Cleveland will clinch. If Toronto wins at least two against us, they will clinch before the final series. If Toronto wins one against us and Houston sweeps Seattle, Toronto will clinch before the final series. The Cubs are hosting Minnesota now and then play four at Pittsburgh. If the Cubs win at least three of five, they clinch before the final series. Milwaukee has three at Cincinnati and five at St. Louis, which makes it harder to know how each game affects the Cubs' ability to clinch. Even if the Cubs and Atlanta clinch before the final series, second in the NL East, second in the NL Central, and both NL wild cards probably will not be clinched until the final series.

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    Re: The Official 2020 Playoff Push Thread

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    It’s not quite the same thing. The opportunity cost of doubling up on the team’s #1 wideout means the guy lined up in the slot on the other side of the field is going to be open. The offense moves the ball. The opportunity cost of moving the SS to shallow RF takes the power stroke out of Juan Soto’s bat, reducing him to launch angles and ground balls to the left side of the infield.

    I get what you’re saying, but it’s not good for the sport.
    It's actually pretty similar. So the football team is going to go to an inferior receiver to take advantage of the mismatch. The baseball player should take advantage of the opportunity and get on base, and rely on his teammate to drive him in.

    The shift is a lot better than watching all those walks Bonds used to get, and you'd think it would drive these guys to be better all-around players and use the whole field more.

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    Re: The Official 2020 Playoff Push Thread

    Teams that clinched a playoff berth heading into September 21 games

    American League: TBR, CWS, MIN and OAK
    National League: LAD (Clinched home field for Wild Card series), SD

    Eliminated from the playoff picture
    American League: BOS, TEX
    National League: PIT, AZD
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    Quote Originally Posted by BroadwayBomber55 View Post
    Teams that clinched a playoff berth heading into September 21 games

    American League: TBR, CWS, MIN and OAK
    National League: LAD (Clinched home field for Wild Card series), SD

    Eliminated from the playoff picture
    American League: BOS, TEX
    National League: PIT, AZD
    You left out the Yankees.

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    You left out the Yankees.

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