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    Re: HelloNewman's Occasional Question #15

    Quote Originally Posted by theDurk View Post
    For second choice, do Diana Ross and The Supremes qualify? The four members were all female, but there were certainly male backup musicians.
    I would say they do. I mean, the Beatles had American Billy Preston playing keyboards on parts of "Let It Be," but they still should be considered a British band, right?
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    Heart was not an all-female band. Obviously the Wilson sisters were the headliners but other members of the band were male.

    I'll go with the Bangles. Sue me.
    Not suing you at all. Bangles are my pick as well. I think you could pitch their debut album "All Over the Place" as one of the 10 best albums of the 1980s, I like it better than the follow-up "Different Light" which had most of their hits. "Hero Takes the Fall" from "All Over the Place" is a flat-out brilliant pop song.

    Plus hey, they got Spock to do a video with them


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    Quote Originally Posted by HelloNewman View Post
    I would say they do. I mean, the Beatles had American Billy Preston playing keyboards on parts of "Let It Be," but they still should be considered a British band, right?
    I’d suggest that this was a little more than Billy Preston.

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    Re: HelloNewman's Occasional Question #15

    Quote Originally Posted by HelloNewman View Post
    Not suing you at all. Bangles are my pick as well. I think you could pitch their debut album "All Over the Place" as one of the 10 best albums of the 1980s, I like it better than the follow-up "Different Light" which had most of their hits. "Hero Takes the Fall" from "All Over the Place" is a flat-out brilliant pop song.

    Plus hey, they got Spock to do a video with them


    Not bad. I never heard that before. Then again, I spent the 80s in Brazil.
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    Re: HelloNewman's Occasional Question #15

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    I’d suggest that this was a little more than Billy Preston.
    Not sure what you're saying. Billy Preston backed up the Beatles on a few songs. Male musicians backed up the Supremes. I don't think the presence of male backup musicians disqualifies the Supremes as an all-female band. Do you disagree? The backups don't count.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HelloNewman View Post
    Not sure what you're saying. Billy Preston backed up the Beatles on a few songs. Male musicians backed up the Supremes. I don't think the presence of male backup musicians disqualifies the Supremes as an all-female band. Do you disagree? The backups don't count.
    Yes, I disagree. The entire band was male except for the vocalists. They were more than backup musicians; they were the musicians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JL25and3 View Post
    Yes, I disagree. The entire band was male except for the vocalists. They were more than backup musicians; they were the musicians.
    Same. Question was “all-female”, not female-led.

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    Re: HelloNewman's Occasional Question #15

    I figured this thread would get tangled in this, which is why I didn't answer. I don't think there's anything defined, but in my own opinion there is a distinction between a band who are comprised of instrumentalists (and possibly singers) and vocal or singing groups who are not instrumentalists. The Supremes would therefore be a vocal group, not a band.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bub View Post
    I figured this thread would get tangled in this, which is why I didn't answer. I don't think there's anything defined, but in my own opinion there is a distinction between a band who are comprised of instrumentalists (and possibly singers) and vocal or singing groups who are not instrumentalists. The Supremes would therefore be a vocal group, not a band.
    I concur with your assessment.

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    Yes, I disagree. The entire band was male except for the vocalists. They were more than backup musicians; they were the musicians.
    a) Interesting take that the Supremes weren't musicians because they didn't play instruments. Sinatra, Crosby not musicians I guess? b) Come on man, tell me anyone who bought Supremes records back in the day did it to hear the backing musicians. Of course they had studio help. Bangles, Go-Gos et al had indispensable male roadie help and extensive male help in the studio, although more from the production end. Not an all-female band now?

    Find a better hill. Supremes are an all-female band, it's just common sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HelloNewman View Post
    a) Interesting take that the Supremes weren't musicians because they didn't play instruments. Sinatra, Crosby not musicians I guess? b) Come on man, tell me anyone who bought Supremes records back in the day to hear the backing musicians. Of course they had studio help. Bangles, Go-Gos et al had indispensable male roadie help. Not an all-female band now?

    Find a better hill.
    Yes, of course they were musicians, but I still say they fronted a mostly male band. No, not an all-female band.

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    Yes, of course they were musicians, but I still say they fronted a mostly male band. No, not an all-female band.

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    Well if we are still going to talk about girl bands (which I fully support), might as well post this here.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/m...-zero-1037409/

    Ahead of the Friday premiere of a documentary celebrating the Go-Go’s, the band has released “Club Zero,” their first new song in 19 years.

    The self-produced song was created via email exchanges between band members and recorded at studios in San Francisco and Los Angeles.

    In the closing scene of the Showtime doc The Go-Go’s — premiering tonight, July 31st — the reunited band is shown working on the track, as well as performing “Club Zero” at Los Angeles’ Whisky a Go Go, a one-time stomping ground of the trailblazing all-female rock group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HelloNewman View Post
    a) Interesting take that the Supremes weren't musicians because they didn't play instruments. Sinatra, Crosby not musicians I guess? b) Come on man, tell me anyone who bought Supremes records back in the day did it to hear the backing musicians. Of course they had studio help. Bangles, Go-Gos et al had indispensable male roadie help and extensive male help in the studio, although more from the production end. Not an all-female band now?

    Find a better hill. Supremes are an all-female band, it's just common sense.

    Edit: You know what? Sorry I ever did this series. See y'all. Enjoy Buzzard's Bay. Out.
    I like the series. Wasn’t looking for hill, just more clarity. There was definitely ambiguity here.

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    I mostly listen to metal and most female metal bands suck. Otep is pretty cool.
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