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    Academicizing Sabermetrics

    I noticed this the other day, at https://sabr.org/latest/2020-sabr-an...-presentations.



    SABR and Baseball Info Solutions are pleased to announce the research presentations for the ninth annual SABR Analytics Conference, which will be held March 13-15, 2020, at the Renaissance Phoenix Downtown in Phoenix, Arizona. All baseball fans are welcome to attend; register now to join us!
    • Scott Brave, "Can an Across-the-Board Increase in Minor League Pay Reduce PED Use?"
    • Patrick Brennan, "Measuring the Impact of Pitch Location on a Player’s Performance"
    • Alex Caravan, "Swing Adjustments"
    • Colton Cronin, "Scoring Reversals Revisited: The Mutability of MVP Voting"
    • Gregory Dvoroscik, "Using Clustering to Find Pitch Sub-types and Effective Pairings"
    • Russell Eassom, "Strength of Players Faced — A WAR Analysis"
    • Glenn Healey, "Modeling and Projecting Offensive Value Using Combined Hit-Tracking and Speed Measurements"
    • Bill Leisenring, "Using Pitching Mechanics Analytics to Predict Injury and Improve Performance"
    • Jeremy Losak, "What’s Hanging? An Empirical Definition And Defining Attributes For The Hanging Pitch"
    • Michael McBride, "Introducing SRC and OSWC: Using Game Theory to Assign Credit for Offensive Outcomes"
    • Jason Themanson, "Examining Neural Activity to Pitches and Feedback at the Plate: Psychological and Performance Implications"
    • Meredith Wills, "The 2019 Baseball, and the Unanticipated Consequences of Change"
    Please note: All speakers are subject to change depending on availability.
    More information on presentation schedule and abstracts will be posted on this page soon.
    For more information on the 2020 SABR Analytics Conference, visit SABR.org/analytics.
    This page was last updated January 24, 2020 at 12:55 pm MST.

    These topics remind me of the increasingly--relentlessly, year-by-year--arcane nature of academic conferences, where, now and then, something interesting is presented; but where, by and large, the topics are often--not always--so narrowly focused as to reduce not only their general interest but also their general relevance to the field (whatever the field may be).

    In this case, I've italicized a couple that seem to me of real interest, and I've bold-faced a couple that seem bizarrely re​cher​ché. In one case ("Scoring Reversals Revisited: The Mutability of MVP Voting"), I had no idea what the speaker was up to. This, too, is often a feature of the academicizing of a field that may have, in itself, a real claim to interest (whether in History, Literature, Sociology, or Sabermetrics).

    Although not hostile to Sabremetrics, I do confess to being, often, bored by it and to being annoyed by assumptions of many fans of the game that broadcasters should employ it with the same degree of excitement as many fans of Sabering do.

    Having said all that I welcome being lessoned about my reaction to this list of proposed topics.

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    Re: Academicizing Sabermetrics

    Quote Originally Posted by Bauer View Post
    I noticed this the other day, at https://sabr.org/latest/2020-sabr-an...-presentations.



    SABR and Baseball Info Solutions are pleased to announce the research presentations for the ninth annual SABR Analytics Conference, which will be held March 13-15, 2020, at the Renaissance Phoenix Downtown in Phoenix, Arizona. All baseball fans are welcome to attend; register now to join us!
    • Scott Brave, "Can an Across-the-Board Increase in Minor League Pay Reduce PED Use?"
    • Patrick Brennan, "Measuring the Impact of Pitch Location on a Player’s Performance"
    • Alex Caravan, "Swing Adjustments"
    • Colton Cronin, "Scoring Reversals Revisited: The Mutability of MVP Voting"
    • Gregory Dvoroscik, "Using Clustering to Find Pitch Sub-types and Effective Pairings"
    • Russell Eassom, "Strength of Players Faced — A WAR Analysis"
    • Glenn Healey, "Modeling and Projecting Offensive Value Using Combined Hit-Tracking and Speed Measurements"
    • Bill Leisenring, "Using Pitching Mechanics Analytics to Predict Injury and Improve Performance"
    • Jeremy Losak, "What’s Hanging? An Empirical Definition And Defining Attributes For The Hanging Pitch"
    • Michael McBride, "Introducing SRC and OSWC: Using Game Theory to Assign Credit for Offensive Outcomes"
    • Jason Themanson, "Examining Neural Activity to Pitches and Feedback at the Plate: Psychological and Performance Implications"
    • Meredith Wills, "The 2019 Baseball, and the Unanticipated Consequences of Change"
    Please note: All speakers are subject to change depending on availability.
    More information on presentation schedule and abstracts will be posted on this page soon.
    For more information on the 2020 SABR Analytics Conference, visit SABR.org/analytics.
    This page was last updated January 24, 2020 at 12:55 pm MST.

    These topics remind me of the increasingly--relentlessly, year-by-year--arcane nature of academic conferences, where, now and then, something interesting is presented; but where, by and large, the topics are often--not always--so narrowly focused as to reduce not only their general interest but also their general relevance to the field (whatever the field may be).

    In this case, I've italicized a couple that seem to me of real interest, and I've bold-faced a couple that seem bizarrely re​cher​ché. In one case ("Scoring Reversals Revisited: The Mutability of MVP Voting"), I had no idea what the speaker was up to. This, too, is often a feature of the academicizing of a field that may have, in itself, a real claim to interest (whether in History, Literature, Sociology, or Sabermetrics).

    Although not hostile to Sabremetrics, I do confess to being, often, bored by it and to being annoyed by assumptions of many fans of the game that broadcasters should employ it with the same degree of excitement as many fans of Sabering do.

    Having said all that I welcome being lessoned about my reaction to this list of proposed topics.
    Sabermetrics is an applied field of Data Science, parallel to Business Intelligence.

    It's not the cutesy, eyerolling cottage industry you seem to think it is.
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    Re: Academicizing Sabermetrics

    Quote Originally Posted by ojo View Post
    Sabermetrics is an applied field of Data Science, parallel to Business Intelligence.

    It's not the cutesy, eyerolling cottage industry you seem to think it is.

    There isn't a shred of evidence in anything I said that suggests I took it to be "cutesy" or "eyerolling" or a "cottage industry." Sabermetrics lovers have the thinnest skins in all of sports.

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    Re: Academicizing Sabermetrics

    Quote Originally Posted by Bauer View Post
    There isn't a shred of evidence in anything I said that suggests I took it to be "cutesy" or "eyerolling" or a "cottage industry." Sabermetrics lovers have the thinnest skins in all of sports.
    Oh calm down.

    I took exception to this:

    This, too, is often a feature of the academicizing of a field that may have, in itself, a real claim to interest (whether in History, Literature, Sociology, or Sabermetrics).
    History, Literature and Sociology, while specialized from General Studies, still contain several fields of study within them.

    Sabermetrics is but an applied field of Data Science. That's all I'm saying.

    As to your gripe, who's to say Michael McBride's piece about game theory (mathematical models?) wouldn't motivate or become cited in some future academic research that one day proves to be seminal?
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    Re: Academicizing Sabermetrics

    Quote Originally Posted by Bauer View Post
    Having said all that I welcome being lessoned about my reaction to this list of proposed topics.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bauer View Post
    There isn't a shred of evidence in anything I said that suggests I took it to be "cutesy" or "eyerolling" or a "cottage industry." Sabermetrics lovers have the thinnest skins in all of sports.

    Not so welcoming it would seem.


    I don't pretend to be a Sabermatrician but what is wrong with "academicizing" (not sure that is a word but hope you understand) a subject?
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    the rest is just details.

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    Re: Academicizing Sabermetrics

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    Although not hostile to Sabremetrics, I do confess to being, often, bored by it and to being annoyed by assumptions of many fans of the game that broadcasters should employ it with the same degree of excitement as many fans of Sabering do.
    I think there should be a good mix. Coney is good example of this. He mixes commentary for the game, analytics and personal experience as a player. He's the most informative announcer there is. For me his experience and analytics make his job really interesting.
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