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  1. #9426

    Re: 2018 Trade Deadline Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by longtimeyankeefan View Post
    Supposedly, the Mets ask for both of those players. That’s the price I’m talking about.
    First of all, I highly doubted that Mets wanted to trade deGrom to the Yankees even if they offered a package of Joe DiMaggio in his prime but let's say they could have been enticed to trade him to the Yankees. In that case the demand of both would be a starting point to negotiate a deal for a package involving either. But it doesn't sound like the Yankees made a serious attempt.
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  2. #9427

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    From Tim Kurkjian, he said theMets asked for both and the Yanks said they wouldn't include either in the package. Surprised Cashman wouldn't let Andujar go for DeGrom, but the Messt's wannting both is just crazy talk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeter99 View Post
    From Tim Kurkjian, he said theMets asked for both and the Yanks said they wouldn't include either in the package. Surprised Cashman wouldn't let Andujar go for DeGrom, but the Messt's wannting both is just crazy talk.
    There isn’t a chance in hell Cashman wouldn’t deal Andujar for DeGrom. The sticking point is “...& Torres.”
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    I'm not completely surprised by that. The history of trading a ROY candidate/winner for top flight SP doesn't exist.

    He may be more willing to move Andj in the offseason knowing he'll get Donaldson/Machado to replace.
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  5. #9430

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    Quote Originally Posted by ojo View Post
    There isn’t a chance in hell Cashman wouldn’t deal Andujar for DeGrom. The sticking point is “...& Torres.”
    Kurkjian specifically stated that the Mutts wanted both, and Cashman would include neither in the package. Kurkjian actually agreed as he said there is no way you trade those two as they would be the Yankees infield for the next decade and both were stars in the making. He went on to say that the Mets could have STILL gotten, (his words were a King's ransom) from us to get Degrom but they refused to drop the price below both of those guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeter99 View Post
    Kurkjian specifically stated that the Mutts wanted both, and Cashman would include neither in the package. Kurkjian actually agreed as he said there is no way you trade those two as they would be the Yankees infield for the next decade and both were stars in the making. He went on to say that the Mets could have STILL gotten, (his words were a King's ransom) from us to get Degrom but they refused to drop the price below both of those guys.
    I don’t doubt your recollection, nor do I doubt Kurkjian’s reporting. However, I think Cashman’s being a little loose with his version of the truth when he said he wasn’t dealing either of them. That’s just smart on Cashman’s part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClownPickle View Post
    I'm not completely surprised by that. The history of trading a ROY candidate/winner for top flight SP doesn't exist.

    He may be more willing to move Andj in the offseason knowing he'll get Donaldson/Machado to replace.
    Replacing Andj with Donaldson would be an absolutely terrible move.

    With Machado, it'd at least make some sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYYfan4life90 View Post
    Replacing Andj with Donaldson would be an absolutely terrible move.

    With Machado, it'd at least make some sense.

    Would it be terrible acquiring him if Donaldson shows he's healthy and returns to form with Cleveland?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChinMusic View Post
    Would it be terrible acquiring him if Donaldson shows he's healthy and returns to form with Cleveland?
    Possibly, depends on the contract. Regardless of what he shows with Cleveland he's at the risky stage of his career where his health is starting to go and his bat may not be far behind.

    On a 1 or 2 year deal he's probably worth it, on a 3+ deal (which he'll probably get) you're rolling the dice on at least one of those years.

  10. #9435

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYYfan4life90 View Post
    Replacing Andj with Donaldson would be an absolutely terrible move.

    With Machado, it'd at least make some sense.
    Quote Originally Posted by ChinMusic View Post
    Would it be terrible acquiring him if Donaldson shows he's healthy and returns to form with Cleveland?
    I have to agree with NYYfan for two reasons, age and money. Once upon a time the money didn't matter, but in the salary cap and luxury tax era young impact players who are locked in on the cheap for four or five years (not exactly sure, but you get the idea) are like manna from heaven. Its like hitting the jackpot on your draft picks in the NFL where they have a hard cap. Get enough of these young, cost effective players on your roster, and we do have a fairly significant number of them, Andujar included, and it gives you the cap space to fill your biggest needs elsewhere with the best (high priced) free agents.

    IOW's because of players like Torres, Andujar, Judge, Sanchez etc., and more money coming off the payroll next year with veterans like Gardner who can be replaced as a forth OF with another young/cheap player like Frazier, we will have plenty of cap space to be extremely aggressive with the best FA SP's on the market, which is all we really need to make this team a Juggernaut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Battingly View Post
    I have to agree with NYYfan for two reasons, age and money. Once upon a time the money didn't matter, but in the salary cap and luxury tax era young impact players who are locked in on the cheap for four or five years (not exactly sure, but you get the idea) are like manna from heaven. Its like hitting the jackpot on your draft picks in the NFL where they have a hard cap. Get enough of these young, cost effective players on your roster, and we do have a fairly significant number of them, Andujar included, and it gives you the cap space to fill your biggest needs elsewhere with the best (high priced) free agents.

    IOW's because of players like Torres, Andujar, Judge, Sanchez etc., and more money coming off the payroll next year with veterans like Gardner who can be replaced as a forth OF with another young/cheap player like Frazier, we will have plenty of cap space to be extremely aggressive with the best FA SP's on the market, which is all we really need to make this team a Juggernaut.
    Yanks LOVE Manny. And the feeling would appear to be mutual. Manny at 3B, move the defensively-challenged Andujar to LF, where his rocket arm would be a big asset.
    I think they shop Sanchez....at least, I'm no longer a big fan. I like Yasmani Grandal as a FA catcher. Would give the Yanks a great defensive C and another LH bat. Some combo of Sanchez/Betances/Gray brings in a top-flight starter. Find a first baseman (maybe Bird/Voit?). Sign Corbin. Build a better team.

  12. #9437

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    Agreed with Andujar to LF with his rocket arm. Send him to fall ball/ winter league and let him get familiar with it.

    Grandal is a FA this year with his switch hitting bat and good glove. Let Sanchez play some 1B/DH and catch some.

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    Re: 2018 Trade Deadline Thread

    Yankees, Red Sox and Astros not happy about how the Donaldson trade went down: https://www.sny.tv/yankees/news/yank...port/294063768
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  14. #9439

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    Sherman says Yanks and Marlins talking Realmuto.

  15. #9440

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    Quote Originally Posted by yank4life2005 View Post
    Sherman says Yanks and Marlins talking Realmuto.
    I don't think this statement is accurate. If you got the information from this article in the Post https://nypost.com/2018/09/08/will-y...k-big-picture/
    He's not reporting that they are discussing a trade, he's saying it could be a possibility. That's no different than saying it's possible they could try to trade for Mike Trout, but it doesn't mean it's in the process of happening.

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    Re: 2018 Trade Deadline Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by yank4life2005 View Post
    Sherman says Yanks and Marlins talking Realmuto.
    Why would they want to give up a young catcher with his talent?
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  17. #9442

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bub View Post
    Why would they want to give up a young catcher with his talent?
    Why would they trade away Yelich/Stanton/Ozuna/Gordon? I feel like with the Marlins, anything is possible.

  18. #9443

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    This was Sherman saying this is something the Yankees could possibly pursue in the off-season if they have lost faith in Sanchez as a catcher. He laid out the scenario of trading for Realmato as an option for them, not as if there are talks happening now.

    This is the actual quote in the story

    Sanchez would have to hit better to justify being the regular DH, but of course the Yanks obtained Stanton with the thought he would largely fill that role, perhaps for the next decade. Austin Romine has demonstrated he is at least a reliable backup catcher, but is he a No. 1? Plus, he is a free agent after next season.
    Would the Yankees invest even more prospect capital to try to land Stanton’s former Marlins teammate, J.T. Realmuto, or to find a catcher? Or can Sanchez, 26 in September, recapture his offense and make upgrades on his defense?

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    Re: 2018 Trade Deadline Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Bub View Post
    Why would they want to give up a young catcher with his talent?
    Because they only have him under team control for a couple more years. He’ll be a FA by the time they are good again.
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    Re: 2018 Trade Deadline Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeter99 View Post
    This was Sherman saying this is something the Yankees could possibly pursue in the off-season if they have lost faith in Sanchez as a catcher. He laid out the scenario of trading for Realmato as an option for them, not as if there are talks happening now.

    This is the actual quote in the story

    Sanchez would have to hit better to justify being the regular DH, but of course the Yanks obtained Stanton with the thought he would largely fill that role, perhaps for the next decade. Austin Romine has demonstrated he is at least a reliable backup catcher, but is he a No. 1? Plus, he is a free agent after next season.
    Would the Yankees invest even more prospect capital to try to land Stanton’s former Marlins teammate, J.T. Realmuto, or to find a catcher? Or can Sanchez, 26 in September, recapture his offense and make upgrades on his defense?
    If the Yanks can figure out a deal(s) that would swap Sanchez for Realmuto without a “huge” prospect loss they should be all in!
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    Re: 2018 Trade Deadline Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by NelsonMuntz View Post
    Because they only have him under team control for a couple more years. He’ll be a FA by the time they are good again.
    And this makes a deal possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ27 View Post
    If the Yanks can figure out a deal(s) that would swap Sanchez for Realmuto without a “huge” prospect loss they should be all in!
    Sanchez and Bird for Realmuto would probably get this done

  23. #9448

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    Michael Fulmer gives up homers to the first two batters today and leaves after five pitches. Sometimes the best deals are the ones you don’t make.

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