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    Re: Greg Bird OUT 6 to 8 Weeks - Bone Spurs Ankle Surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by Yankees1962 View Post
    Apparently this bone spur broke off so its a loose body that they can remove without being too invasive. Boone stated he will only be in a walking boot for a few days. If he’s able to resume working out in four weeks after the small incision has healed enough to do so, he might be back before June. What we don’t know is whether they need to go in there to do some grinding on any bone spur still left intact? That could cause some delay in the rehab process. The weirdest experience I’ve had was being wide awake as a surgeon did the same to me a number of years ago. Of course the area was numbed up, but I could still feel him in there like a dentist pulling out a wisdom tooth.
    Do you know if this was something for which he was susceptible after last year's surgery? I'm also wondering if it was it something the surgeon might have neglected to address. Or, maybe it was just a freak coincidence that it's on the same ankle.

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    Re: Greg Bird OUT 6 to 8 Weeks - Bone Spurs Ankle Surgery

    Any talk of moving on from Bird is silly, but this is such a shame.

    Better it happen now I guess?

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    Re: Greg Bird OUT 6 to 8 Weeks - Bone Spurs Ankle Surgery

    Greg Bird is the new Nick Johnson....the guy can not stay healthy for anything. I'm done with him, its time to move Hicks/Juge/Stanton to first that will clear up the outfield logjam and give Frazier playing time in the OF.

    Seriously, he probably wont be back til late May and he was supposed to be a 30+ HR guy but he cant stay on the field.
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    Re: Greg Bird OUT 6 to 8 Weeks - Bone Spurs Ankle Surgery

    Better now then later in the season. Bird will be back for the Championship run. I wondered if something was wrong the way he hit this spring training....

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    Re: Greg Bird OUT 6 to 8 Weeks - Bone Spurs Ankle Surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by MyBoysKaosHavoK View Post

    I wondered if something was wrong the way he hit this spring training....
    After what happened last year, if he felt even the slightest bit of pain or discomfort in that foot earlier in the Spring and didn't alert management, they have every right to be furious about it, and frankly I would be furious too. And if he did tell management and they didn't take all the necessary steps to have it checked out, then the fans would have every right to be furious with management. If this had been taken care of earlier in the Spring, he would have missed way less games in the regular season. But of course we'll never know if this just popped up the last week of the Spring or not. The idea that he had such a poor Spring because of it is not a preposterous one. I'm sure its crossed everyones mind. But we'll never know the truth.
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    Re: Greg Bird OUT 6 to 8 Weeks - Bone Spurs Ankle Surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by ArodEra View Post
    Do you know if this was something for which he was susceptible after last year's surgery? I'm also wondering if it was it something the surgeon might have neglected to address. Or, maybe it was just a freak coincidence that it's on the same ankle.
    Maybe bad luck but I wonder if all of these surgeries are the same doctor? I would get a second opinion. I don't know if this is correct. Broke it at the end of ST last year. Corrected. Wasn't correct. Had another surgery. Corrected. Wasn't correct. (Now has a bone chip at the end of this ST.)

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    Re: Greg Bird OUT 6 to 8 Weeks - Bone Spurs Ankle Surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by Brooklyn Yankee Fan View Post
    Any talk of moving on from Bird is silly, but this is such a shame.

    Better it happen now I guess?
    I don't agree that it's silly. He's injury prone. Time to cut bait.

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    Re: Greg Bird OUT 6 to 8 Weeks - Bone Spurs Ankle Surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Bernard View Post
    I don't agree that it's silly. He's injury prone. Time to cut bait.
    I'm think its early for that... I want this season to play out..
    If he is not able to come back from this and goes through a lost season injury wise, then I'd agree part of the offseason plan for next year should include a different solution for first base..

    But if he comes back early June and hits .280 with, let's say 20 HR from that point until the end of the year, then I would not see why we need to look in other directions.
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    Re: Greg Bird OUT 6 to 8 Weeks - Bone Spurs Ankle Surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by ArodEra View Post
    Do you know if this was something for which he was susceptible after last year's surgery? I'm also wondering if it was it something the surgeon might have neglected to address. Or, maybe it was just a freak coincidence that it's on the same ankle.
    I would imagine it is something that occurred as a result of last year's surgery. The fact that the spur broke off is what causes the need for the surgery.
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    Re: Greg Bird OUT 6 to 8 Weeks - Bone Spurs Ankle Surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by bucky View Post
    Maybe bad luck but I wonder if all of these surgeries are the same doctor? I would get a second opinion. I don't know if this is correct. Broke it at the end of ST last year. Corrected. Wasn't correct. Had another surgery. Corrected. Wasn't correct. (Now has a bone chip at the end of this ST.)
    I believe that the doctor he saw yesterday was the one who performed his last surgery. I might be wrong, but it seems like the Yankees have an inordinate number of issues with their medical staff.

    Quote Originally Posted by longtimeyankeefan View Post
    I would imagine it is something that occurred as a result of last year's surgery. The fact that the spur broke off is what causes the need for the surgery.
    Thanks. I wouldn't think it was just a coincidence and figured it was somehow related.

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    Re: Greg Bird OUT 6 to 8 Weeks - Bone Spurs Ankle Surgery

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    Greg Bird is the new Nick Johnson....the guy can not stay healthy for anything. I'm done with him, its time to move Hicks/Juge/Stanton to first that will clear up the outfield logjam and give Frazier playing time in the OF.

    Seriously, he probably wont be back til late May and he was supposed to be a 30+ HR guy but he cant stay on the field.
    I am really surprised we haven't seen any of the OFers grab a first baseman's glove this spring. The injuries to Ellsbury and Frazier made it less of a no-brainer, but one of Judge/Stanton/Ellsbury/Frazier should have taken some reps there (not Hicks since he's our best defensive OFer and has a cannon).

    But since that wasn't done already, I'm fairly confident a platoon of Walker/Austin will be fine in the short term, with McKinney, Ford, Andujar, and Torres available for infield reinforcements as needed.

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    Re: Greg Bird OUT 6 to 8 Weeks - Bone Spurs Ankle Surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob035 View Post
    I am really surprised we haven't seen any of the OFers grab a first baseman's glove this spring. The injuries to Ellsbury and Frazier made it less of a no-brainer, but one of Judge/Stanton/Ellsbury/Frazier should have taken some reps there (not Hicks since he's our best defensive OFer and has a cannon).

    But since that wasn't done already, I'm fairly confident a platoon of Walker/Austin will be fine in the short term, with McKinney, Ford, Andujar, and Torres available for infield reinforcements as needed.
    Stanton was drafted as a first baseman out of high school in the 2nd round of the 2007 draft. Donít believe he played the position in the minors though.
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    Re: Greg Bird OUT 6 to 8 Weeks - Bone Spurs Ankle Surgery

    I really find it hard to believe that he's going to be back in 6 to 8 weeks.

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    Re: Greg Bird OUT 6 to 8 Weeks - Bone Spurs Ankle Surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Bernard View Post
    I don't agree that it's silly. He's injury prone. Time to cut bait.
    This is nonsensical - there's no bait to cut. Bird costs effectively nothing, and will continue to cost effectively nothing for awhile. It would be utterly irrational for any team to give up on a player like Bird at this point.

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    Re: Greg Bird OUT 6 to 8 Weeks - Bone Spurs Ankle Surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by longtimeyankeefan View Post
    I would imagine it is something that occurred as a result of last year's surgery. The fact that the spur broke off is what causes the need for the surgery.
    Correct!
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    Re: Greg Bird OUT 6 to 8 Weeks - Bone Spurs Ankle Surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Mxylsplk View Post
    This is nonsensical - there's no bait to cut. Bird costs effectively nothing, and will continue to cost effectively nothing for awhile. It would be utterly irrational for any team to give up on a player like Bird at this point.
    Agreed. The thing I take issue with is the lack of follow up by the team’s medical staff. The patient (Bird) needing to present with a swollen foot rather than this issue being sussed out by some diagnostic testing is entirely reactionary. You’d think that perhaps after a week of resuming baseball activities back in February they might’ve proactively taken a peek at how the foot was doing.

    I dunno. I mean we all know the healthcare system is broken, but why employ that model on your own players when you’re a professional sports organization?
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    Re: Greg Bird OUT 6 to 8 Weeks - Bone Spurs Ankle Surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by ArodEra View Post
    I believe that the doctor he saw yesterday was the one who performed his last surgery. I might be wrong, but it seems like the Yankees have an inordinate number of issues with their medical staff.
    The specialist who's operating on him today is indeed the guy that operated on him last year. He's considered one of the best in his field. As to their issues with their medical staff. Every fan base says the same thing about their team's medical staff.
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    Re: Greg Bird OUT 6 to 8 Weeks - Bone Spurs Ankle Surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by ojo View Post
    Agreed. The thing I take issue with is the lack of follow up by the team’s medical staff. The patient (Bird) needing to present with a swollen foot rather than this issue being sussed out by some diagnostic testing is entirely reactionary. You’d think that perhaps after a week of resuming baseball activities back in February they might’ve proactively taken a peek at how the foot was doing.

    I dunno. I mean we all know the healthcare system is broken, but why employ that model on your own players when you’re a professional sports organization?
    You got to remember that they had to do more scans of his foot yesterday at different angles to find the broken bone spur issue. Those scans in Tampa last weekend didn't show anything that was causing the inflammation. I think criticizing Bird's treatment from afar is ill-advise as we don't know all the facts.
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    Re: Greg Bird OUT 6 to 8 Weeks - Bone Spurs Ankle Surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by ArodEra View Post
    Do you know if this was something for which he was susceptible after last year's surgery? I'm also wondering if it was it something the surgeon might have neglected to address. Or, maybe it was just a freak coincidence that it's on the same ankle.
    Bone spurs frequently occur after certain operations. It happens a lot in elbows and feet.
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    Re: Greg Bird OUT 6 to 8 Weeks - Bone Spurs Ankle Surgery

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    I really find it hard to believe that he's going to be back in 6 to 8 weeks.
    It depends on how big the incision and how much they had to do to remove the loose bone spur. Also, whether they had to go in and grind down any spur that hasn't broken free.

    Four years ago, I was in a walking boot for weeks because I not only had a bone spur, but I had a partially torn Achilles tendon that they repaired. You never ever want to completely tear your Achilles tendon. The rehab on that is terrible and very long process so I wanted to avoid that issue.
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    Re: Greg Bird OUT 6 to 8 Weeks - Bone Spurs Ankle Surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by Yankees1962 View Post
    You got to remember that they had to do more scans of his foot yesterday at different angles to find the broken bone spur issue. Those scans in Tampa last weekend didn't show anything that was causing the inflammation. I think criticizing Bird's treatment from afar is ill-advise as we don't know all the facts.
    Iím not sure weíre arguing the same thing here. Iím asking whether or not there were any proactive, diagnostic tests before the lingering soreness developed. As in, because a player had a bone removed from his ankle last summer, it is part of his medical program to get imaging done on his foot at certain increments throughout Spring Training.

    As for criticizing Birdís treatment? You kinda just did that yourself when you recognized they failed to properly use the equipment available to them in Tampa to diagnose the issue last week.
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    Re: Greg Bird OUT 6 to 8 Weeks - Bone Spurs Ankle Surgery

    Buster Olney:
    Doctors removed a coin-sized calcium deposit out of Greg Bird's ankle.

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    Re: Greg Bird OUT 6 to 8 Weeks - Bone Spurs Ankle Surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by ojo View Post
    Iím not sure weíre arguing the same thing here. Iím asking whether or not there were any proactive, diagnostic tests before the lingering soreness developed. As in, because a player had a bone removed from his ankle last summer, it is part of his medical program to get imaging done on his foot at certain increments throughout Spring Training.

    As for criticizing Birdís treatment? You kinda just did that yourself when you recognized they failed to properly use the equipment available to them in Tampa to diagnose the issue last week.
    Not really as I always thought they were going to send him to see that New York doctor anyway to play it safe due to their diagnostic issues last year.

    As to your assertion that they should have been proactive, perhaps, don't know, but I'm sure that's going to be process going forward.
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    Re: Greg Bird OUT 6 to 8 Weeks - Bone Spurs Ankle Surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by hairnovaaa View Post
    Buster Olney:
    Doctors removed a coin-sized calcium deposit out of Greg Bird's ankle.
    We all have such deposits in certain sections of our bodies. Sometimes they cause us no issue and other times it leads to this. My question is what type of coin was it a dime or a quarter? I suspect it was the former.
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    Re: Greg Bird OUT 6 to 8 Weeks - Bone Spurs Ankle Surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by hairnovaaa View Post
    Buster Olney:
    Doctors removed a coin-sized calcium deposit out of Greg Bird's ankle.
    So not a bone spur? Wonder if that effects his return time table.

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