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    Re: Playing With The 2018 Lineup

    Can I think out of the box and suggest Aaron Judge as the leadoff hitter? Dead serious.

    Discuss.

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    Conventional wisdom these days is that you bat your best hitter second - my question is who on this team best fits the best hitter description.

    Given his experience, I think Stanton best fits that description, but it would be hard to argue against of Judge, Sanchez, Gregorius or Stanton.

    On the other hand, if Hicks gives us the first half Hicks of last season, going Gardner and Hicks might be the catalyst for this team.
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    Re: Playing With The 2018 Lineup

    Quote Originally Posted by YankeeFan1421 View Post
    Can I think out of the box and suggest Aaron Judge as the leadoff hitter? Dead serious.

    Discuss.
    Ricky Henderson's record for leadoff home runs would be at risk.

    Judge
    Stanton
    Sanchez
    Gregorius

    Why not? Makes the SP work from the first pitch, doesn't it?
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    Re: Playing With The 2018 Lineup

    Breaking It Down:

    Bird between Judge & Stanton

    Didi between Stanton & Sanchez

    5 guys. 3 RH & 2 LH. Mix 'Em Up

    2 in front of this meat: Gardner & Hicks

    2 bringing up the rear: Wade, Andujar, Torreyes, Torres, Espinosa. Peterson
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    Re: Playing With The 2018 Lineup

    I know a lot of people don't worry about the left/right thing with hitters, but I still would rather create some matchup problems. I also still like Gardner leading off, he has power enough to plant one if you just groove it, and if he gets on base, it's a nice distraction as the thunder starts to hit..

    So I'd start with Gardner.
    Then I'd alternate righty/lefty with these hitters: Judge, Bird, Stanton, Didi, Sanchez
    I guess I really do not care much which order they hit in exactly, but I would like the lineup to keep switching lefty/righty to make matchups a problem for opposing managers, especially with all the bullpen specialists we see these days..

    I'd hit Hicks 7th, and then the Torres/Andujar/Torreyes/Wade bunch playing 2nd and 3rd to round it out..

    Damned lethal whatever Boone decides to do.. That's a lot of toys to play with..
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    If Severino starts opening day with Stanton in left, Giancarlo's salary would be larger than all the other 8 starting players on the field combined.

    He better produce bigly and make Yanks great again

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    Re: Playing With The 2018 Lineup

    Normally I wouldn't be that interested in batting Bird ahead of Judge or Stanton, but Bird's still not really experienced an extended stretch of successful hitting in the majors. Having one of the biggest bats in the AL behind him might be a good way to get him more comfortable and develop him into a regular threat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldtimeyank View Post
    If Severino starts opening day with Stanton in left, Giancarlo's salary would be larger than all the other 8 starting players on the field combined.

    He better produce bigly and make Yanks great again
    As meaningless as a fart in the wind, this has nothing to do with anything other than showing the Yankees have a great core of young, cost controlled players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freebubba View Post
    As meaningless as a fart in the wind, this has nothing to do with anything other than showing the Yankees have a great core of young, cost controlled players.

    Wouldn't that depend on whether you were upwind or downwind?

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    Re: Playing With The 2018 Lineup

    I'd go with


    1. Didi L
    2. Stanton R
    3. Judge R
    4. Sanchez R
    5. Bird L
    6. Hicks S
    7. Andujar L
    8. Torreyes/Torres R
    9. Gardner L
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    Quote Originally Posted by The FUTURE View Post
    I'd go with


    1. Didi L
    2. Stanton R
    3. Judge R
    4. Sanchez R
    5. Bird L
    6. Hicks S
    7. Andujar L
    8. Torreyes/Torres R
    9. Gardner L
    Don't love Didi's OBP in the leadoff spot. Gardner also is better on the basepaths. I think Didi is better served breaking up two of the RH boppers somewhere in the middle of the lineup. If you were intent on hitting Gardner 9th, Hicks is more intriguing in the 1 spot, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The FUTURE View Post
    I'd go with


    1. Didi L
    2. Stanton R
    3. Judge R
    4. Sanchez R
    5. Bird L
    6. Hicks S
    7. Andujar L
    8. Torreyes/Torres R
    9. Gardner L
    Didi 1, Gardner 9 makes no sense. Gardy gets on base at a better rate and makes pitchers work more. If Gardy isn't the leadoff guy, go with Judge as some suggested. I'd still go with Gardner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aeromac76 View Post
    I know a lot of people don't worry about the left/right thing with hitters, but I still would rather create some matchup problems. I also still like Gardner leading off, he has power enough to plant one if you just groove it, and if he gets on base, it's a nice distraction as the thunder starts to hit..

    So I'd start with Gardner.
    Then I'd alternate righty/lefty with these hitters: Judge, Bird, Stanton, Didi, Sanchez
    I guess I really do not care much which order they hit in exactly, but I would like the lineup to keep switching lefty/righty to make matchups a problem for opposing managers, especially with all the bullpen specialists we see these days..

    I'd hit Hicks 7th, and then the Torres/Andujar/Torreyes/Wade bunch playing 2nd and 3rd to round it out..

    Damned lethal whatever Boone decides to do.. That's a lot of toys to play with..
    I'm not against L-R-L, but I think your lineup is overthinking things...

    Judge and Stanton can hit lefties or righties, and I think that there is a strong argument that any lineup that doesn't feature them back-to-back is "wrong" (as much as something as subjective as as lineup construction can be right/wrong). You have these two monsters in your lineup. Put them next to eachother. Bird is great, but if you put him between these two guys he's also absolutely a "break" for the the pitcher. Forcing opposing pitchers to get out Judge and Stanton is going to make life difficult for them. Don't mess with that.

    I also hate having Sanchez 6 as a result of the L-R.

    Gardner
    Judge
    Stanton
    Bird
    Sanchez
    Didi
    Hicks
    Torres/Wade
    Andujar

    Simple.

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    I think if you take Greg Bird's proven power in short doses with his OBP potential/ability to hit the ball really hard when he makes contact, you can absolutely sell yourself on the idea of him slotting between Stanton and Judge. Maybe one way to ensure he gets off to a good start is to put him there because he's going to get pitches to hit and if healthy, I imagine he's not going to have a problem taking advantage of the opportunities. At the same time I see no quarrel with just putting Judge and Stanton back to back.


    On the same note, I'd actually be fine with batting Hicks in between the rookie battery at 2nd/3rd whomever the names may be.

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    Re: Playing With The 2018 Lineup

    Quote Originally Posted by YankeeFan1421 View Post
    Can I think out of the box and suggest Aaron Judge as the leadoff hitter? Dead serious.

    Discuss.
    Right you wan a high OBP first but I am bias because I like Gardy leading off. The only reason Judge had a 0.422 OBP was because they walked him "intentionally" so much instead of pitching too him. With Stanton behind him that is NOT an option. I want Gardy there because he is faster and hopefully steal more. I like Gardy - Judge - Stanton.

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    Please donít bat judge first. Heís supposed to be a run producer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fightingirish595 View Post
    Please donít bat judge first. Heís supposed to be a run producer.
    Si si

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    Re: Playing With The 2018 Lineup

    Quote Originally Posted by fightingirish595 View Post
    Please donít bat judge first. Heís supposed to be a run producer.
    Just to clarify my post - I don't want Judge first either but just pointed out his high OBP last year. I think he may have gotten he record for the number of walks last year for a rookie. I like Gardy batting first opening day.

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    Re: Playing With The 2018 Lineup

    Quote Originally Posted by cleanuphtr24 View Post
    I'm not against L-R-L, but I think your lineup is overthinking things...

    Judge and Stanton can hit lefties or righties, and I think that there is a strong argument that any lineup that doesn't feature them back-to-back is "wrong" (as much as something as subjective as as lineup construction can be right/wrong). You have these two monsters in your lineup. Put them next to eachother. Bird is great, but if you put him between these two guys he's also absolutely a "break" for the the pitcher. Forcing opposing pitchers to get out Judge and Stanton is going to make life difficult for them. Don't mess with that.

    I also hate having Sanchez 6 as a result of the L-R.

    Gardner
    Judge
    Stanton
    Bird
    Sanchez
    Didi
    Hicks
    Torres/Wade
    Andujar

    Simple.

    I just don't trust Bird as the cleanup hitter
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    Quote Originally Posted by longtimeyankeefan View Post
    Ricky Henderson's record for leadoff home runs would be at risk.

    Judge
    Stanton
    Sanchez
    Gregorius

    Why not? Makes the SP work from the first pitch, doesn't it?
    I like Judge as the leadoff hitter for a number of reasons.

    First, strikeouts bother me a lot less in the leadoff slot than in the middle of the lineup.
    Dude gets on base.
    Strikes must be thrown.
    Good baserunner.
    Leadoff home runs are game changers before the crowd has even settled in.

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    Re: Playing With The 2018 Lineup

    Quote Originally Posted by YankeeFan1421 View Post
    I like Judge as the leadoff hitter for a number of reasons.

    First, strikeouts bother me a lot less in the leadoff slot than in the middle of the lineup.
    Dude gets on base.
    Strikes must be thrown.
    Good baserunner.
    Leadoff home runs are game changers before the crowd has even settled in.

    The more I think about it the more I like it.


    1. Judge R
    2. Didi L
    3. Stanton R
    4. Sanchez R
    5. Bird L
    6. Hicks S
    7. Andujar L
    8. Torreyes/Torres R
    9. Gardner L





    I like Gardner in the 9 hole to potentially be on base when the lineup turns over and our top batters come to the plate.
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    Re: Playing With The 2018 Lineup

    Frankly you can juggle the lineup as much as you want to. We are loaded offensively and I think we can win even if the lineup is arranged alphabetically.


    For Instance;


    Andujar 3B
    Bird 1B
    Gardener CF
    Gregorius SS
    Judge RF
    Hicks LF
    Sanchez C
    Stanton DH
    Torres 2B


    I think they could win with that lineup but maybe an even better lineup would be reverse alphabetical order.


    In summary, I wouldn't worry about the order, just that everyone stays relatively healthy. As always I am optimistic.


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    Re: Playing With The 2018 Lineup

    Quote Originally Posted by The FUTURE View Post
    The more I think about it the more I like it.
    1. Judge R
    2. Didi L
    3. Stanton R
    4. Sanchez R
    5. Bird L
    6. Hicks S
    7. Andujar L
    8. Torreyes/Torres R
    9. Gardner L

    I like Gardner in the 9 hole to potentially be on base when the lineup turns over and our top batters come to the plate.
    Leadoff really only matters in the top/bottom of the first, after which the leading off potential of a slot in the lineup is completely dependent upon what happens. Is the one more potential AB for Judge batting first worth more than having Gardner on base with Judge/Stanton/Sanchez/Gregorius/Bird (pick your order here) coming up?

    While I will admit that having Judge leadoff, with the remainder of that fivesome protecting him, is attactive, I think having Gardner leading off the game makes more sense - getting on with his speed leads to an increased likelihood of runs scored in the first inning.

    Judge actually did have a better slash line (.340/.439/.742/1.181) leading off an inning last year than Gardner did (.283/.372/.483/.856). However, Gardner's numbers leading off the game (.322/.410/.537/.947) are comparable to Judge's, with the critical difference being the slugging percent.
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    I wanna breakup Judge and Stanton with Bird, who I believe is going to have a monster season too.

    1. Didi
    2. Judge
    3. Bird is the Word
    4. Stanton
    5. Release the Kraken
    6. Hicks
    7. Gardner
    8. Andujar
    9. Torres
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    Quote Originally Posted by Battingly View Post
    I wanna breakup Judge and Stanton with Bird, who I believe is going to have a monster season too.

    1. Didi
    2. Judge
    3. Bird is the Word
    4. Stanton
    5. Release the Kraken
    6. Hicks
    7. Gardner
    8. Andujar
    9. Torres
    Why? Why do the arguably the two best hitters on the team need to be broken up? I don't get this mindset...

    Also... no to didi hitting leadoff. He doesn't get on base enough.

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