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  1. #1076

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    Quote Originally Posted by freebubba View Post
    Not disagreeing with any of that or saying he is doing anything wrong, I am just sick of hearing about it.
    Get used to it, it's how the rest of baseball felt about Aaron Judge last year (although admittedly that was at least MLB performance related).

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    Quote Originally Posted by freebubba View Post
    Not disagreeing with any of that or saying he is doing anything wrong, I am just sick of hearing about it.
    Actually, I'm kind of surprise to how swiftly this process has proceeded. I suspect by this time next week we know where he's going. Originally, I thought the process wouldn't be completed until near the deadline of December 22nd. Again, I think he knew which teams he really had interest in so that's the reasoning for why this process is probably going to wrap up by next week and not the week after.

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    BA with a non-breathless article on Ohtani:

    https://www.baseballamerica.com/majo...STRS5mZmDQa.97

    "How good is Ohtani, really, and how much of it is hype?"

    One demographic is uniquely suited to answer that: Ex-major leaguers who played against Ohtani in Japan.

    "I see the appeal," said Dennis Sarfate, a reliever who pitched parts of four seasons in the majors and won the Japanese Pacific League MVP award in 2017. "I've said it from day one, this guy is going to be a superstar, and he is that good."

    Stefen Romero, an outfielder who played parts of three seasons for the Mariners before joining Orix in the JPPL for 2017, was one of the few to actually face Ohtani on the mound this year. Ohtani made only five starts due to an ankle injury that required surgery in October.

    When Romero faced Ohtani, he struck out swinging.

    "I fouled off some good fastballs, 98-100 (mph)," Romero said, "and he just threw a devastating forkball in the dirt.

    "He's not your everyday Japanese player. He's 6-foot-5, 6-6 and he's huge. When you see him on the mound it's just so smooth and effortless and it just comes out….He doesn't throw 100 all the time. Throughout the game he'll be like 93-94, and then when he wants to he'll go 100, 100, 100."
    "His fastball is hittable," Romero said. "I feel like it's hittable to American players because it's straight, there's not a lot of movement. It's hard, but it is straight. It's more of like an overhand, three-quarter arm slot so it's not too difficult to pick up. But it's his offspeed pitches that he can throw for strikes and have the same arm slot and arm speed with that will get you in trouble. His forkball, it looks just like a fastball but it drops two feet straight down. It starts at your thigh and looks just like a 100-mph fastball and then it just drops two feet into the dirt. His offspeed stuff is pretty legit."
    "Sometimes he thinks too much," Sarfate said. "It's like 'Hey, you throw 100, stop throwing offspeed.' I mean I've seen him throw as many as seven breaking balls in a row.

    "He doesn't have great command," added Sarfate, who has played against Ohtani in the JPPL since 2013. "Everyone thinks his command is good, but I've seen him walk three, four guys in a row and it's because he gets out of sync because he throws so many breaking balls…. If he got a catcher that was around for a while and they could actually guide him through it, I think he would eventually be really good."
    "He's not Masahiro Tanaka," Sarfate said. "Tanaka faced us in 2013 when I was with Seibu. He was definitely far more advanced than what Ohtani is, but he was also a little bit older. If you had said Tanaka (would compete for Cy Youngs right away), I would've said absolutely. The guy commands three pitches down in the zone, he's consistent every time he takes the mound; there's no way Ohtani comes in his first year over and contends for the Cy Young.

    "He is better than most guys I see pitch as a fourth or fifth starter. He can definitely go there and pitch in the big leagues and you can let him have his ups and downs. If he just worked on pitching, I think then he could be a Cy Young winner."
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    Re: The Hunt For Shohei Ohtani

    Is it just me or I see zero reason why NL teams should be in the hunt for Ohtani. With no DH they have to sacrifice a position players (most likely OF) playing time so he can hit. Then you also have to worry about injuries while playing defense.

    With the DH he can hit and just be another bat in the lineup. Unless they want to PH him on non-pitching days where he'll get 1 AB which makes zero sense. The only benefit his days he pitches, you get a rockstar bat in the 9 hole.
    The real reason why the Yankees keep winning is cause the other team can't stop staring at the damn pinstripes

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    Ohtani to the Angels! LOLOLOLOLOLOL Seattle! LOLOLOLOLOL Mariners fans! LOLOLOLOLOL DiPoto!

    Joel Sherman‏ @Joelsherman1 16s17 seconds ago
    CAA in a statement said Ohtani will join #Angels and Trout
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    Re: The Hunt For Shohei Ohtani

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    Ohtani to the Angels! LOLOLOLOLOLOL Seattle! LOLOLOLOLOL Mariners fans! LOLOLOLOLOL DiPoto!
    link?

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    Re: The Hunt For Shohei Ohtani

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    link?
    It's all over Twitter now.

    I'm going to enjoy the message board schadenfreude for the next hour or so.
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    Re: The Hunt For Shohei Ohtani

    Billy freakin Eppler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snatch Catch View Post
    Ohtani to the Angels! LOLOLOLOLOLOL Seattle! LOLOLOLOLOL Mariners fans! LOLOLOLOLOL DiPoto!

    Joel Sherman‏ @Joelsherman1 16s17 seconds ago
    CAA in a statement said Ohtani will join #Angels and Trout
    DiPoto was trying too hard. LOL

    Congrats the Angels. Nice to see Trout getting some help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BomberBrian View Post
    Billy freakin Eppler.
    I'm loving it. After he shafted the Yankees this is the second best place for him to end up next to San Diego for me.
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    Re: The Hunt For Shohei Ohtani

    https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/...ei-ohtani.html

    I didnt know LA was a small market I guess they will have him split DH time with Pujols...either way they were in bad need of a true ace.
    The real reason why the Yankees keep winning is cause the other team can't stop staring at the damn pinstripes

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    Re: The Hunt For Shohei Ohtani

    @BillShaikin

    Ohtani's agent, Nez Balelo: "What mattered to him most wasn’t market size, time zone or league but that he felt a true bond with the Angels. He sees this as the best environment to develop and reach the next level and attain his career goals."

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    Quote Originally Posted by kan_t View Post
    DiPoto was trying too hard. LOL

    Congrats the Angels. Nice to see Trout getting some help.
    Yeah, I wish he went to San Diego, but at least he's not going to Seattle with DiPoto pulling out the stops and ends up with nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trapper700 View Post
    @BillShaikin

    Ohtani's agent, Nez Balelo: "What mattered to him most wasn’t market size, time zone or league but that he felt a true bond with the Angels. He sees this as the best environment to develop and reach the next level and attain his career goals."
    Yeah right! He wanted to be out West and in a market with less pressure. It's LA or Anaheim, but it's not like they're the Dodgers. Good luck to him.

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    Re: The Hunt For Shohei Ohtani

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    The Angels were the only team that would agree to let Ohtani both hit and pitch every day

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snatch Catch View Post
    BA with a non-breathless article on Ohtani:

    https://www.baseballamerica.com/majo...STRS5mZmDQa.97
    When I read that he throws a fork ball, I think that his date with Tommy John surgery is just a matter of time. He might as well schedule it now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trapper700 View Post
    @BillShaikin

    Ohtani's agent, Nez Balelo: "What mattered to him most wasn’t market size, time zone or league but that he felt a true bond with the Angels. He sees this as the best environment to develop and reach the next level and attain his career goals."
    I wonder what caused him to feel that "true bond" with the Angels rather than with the Mariners. I wonder how much of it was the approach of the two GMs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snatch Catch View Post
    Ohtani to the Angels! LOLOLOLOLOLOL Seattle! LOLOLOLOLOL Mariners fans! LOLOLOLOLOL DiPoto!

    Joel Sherman‏ @Joelsherman1 16s17 seconds ago
    CAA in a statement said Ohtani will join #Angels and Trout
    Wow! Ohtani joins the team that already has the best player in baseball. Should be quite a 1-2 punch.

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    Re: The Hunt For Shohei Ohtani

    Quote Originally Posted by trapper700 View Post
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    The Angels were the only team that would agree to let Ohtani both hit and pitch every day
    This was a joke.
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    Re: The Hunt For Shohei Ohtani

    A “town” cant get any smaller than LA!



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    Re: The Hunt For Shohei Ohtani

    I’m typically more magnanimous, but I want him to be a colossal fail and I wouldn’t be surprised if he is.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ArodEra View Post
    I’m typically more magnanimous, but I want him to be a colossal fail and I wouldn’t be surprised if he is.
    I'm not sure he's going to be a successful MLB hitter. It will be interesting to see how he responds when pitchers bust him inside near his throwing elbow since he's a right-handed pitcher, but a left-handed hitter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rajah View Post
    I wonder what caused him to feel that "true bond" with the Angels rather than with the Mariners. I wonder how much of it was the approach of the two GMs.
    Only 25 miles from Torrance, which reportedly has the most vibrant Japanese community in the country. Should be a short commute.

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    Re: The Hunt For Shohei Ohtani

    Anyone interested in Mariners fans meltdowns read on. If not, skip this post.
    • This has to be a false report.
    • Of the seven finalists, This was the worst choice!
    • Tear out my heart, toss it in a bucket of rusty razor blades and dump in a pound of sea salt. Then piss in that bucket and set it on fire.
    • The plus side is that I'm away at college so my dad can't use this as an excuse to get drunk and beat me.
    • LOL, at least we got our farm system to fall back on ...
      ... oh wait
    • I’m disappointed but remember Ohtani hasn’t proven ................ over here. Let the Angels have him.
    • This is absolute worst case scenario. My God I hate baseball. Only the fuggn Mariners can disappoint me in the fuggn off-season
    • Can we really blame him for not wanting to go to a franchise so riddled with failure? I think it's a smart move.
    • KOOL AID HERE! GET YOUR ARSENIC LACED KOOL AID HERE!
    • A-rod is no longer the most hated baseball player in this city
    • It sucks, but we have a lot of international money to sign others, like the braves prospects or Cuban defectors. Maybe I'm in denial, but I'm trying to stay positive. Maybe I'm only positive because I'm at work and can't start drinking yet.
    • Wow, what did I do to deserve an extra batch of the Mariner's building my hopes up to knock them down?
      REALLY? F*CKING REALLY?!?!?!?!?!? MAN F*CK THIS SH*T
    • I hope mike trout breaks his f*cking leg
    • What a f*cking joke. Can't believe he went to a team that can't even figure out what city it's in.
    • I feel like I just got punched in the gut. I feel f*cking sick
    • This is f*cking stupid, Im not supposed to be this sad during the f*cking offseason.
    • I mean, we are M's fans, we should have expected disappointment.
    • What an idiot. He could’ve been our number one guy who we build our franchise around. Probably would’ve been the number one fan favorite. Now he will always be second at best to Trout. Plus the Angels don’t even have fans. They’re all Dodgers fans.
    • Im so so so so so ................ing sad Jesus Christ
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    A little schadenfreund never hurts.

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