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    Re: The Hunt For Shohei Otani

    Quote Originally Posted by THEBOSS84 View Post
    TLDR.

    Can someone gimme the jist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yanks12009 View Post
    Wow. Didn't expect this.


    Gonna be a crazy offseason battle for him.
    I don't think it will be a battle.

    I'd wager he's made up his mind.
    Hideki Matsui is capable of anything

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    Re: The Hunt For Shohei Otani

    The Fansgraph piece is interesting. But I do not think one team's contract creativity is going to make a difference. His agents can come up with the best plan for him, and if some team tweaks it better, they can require the team that he otherwise prefers to match it. I still think that if the Yankees want him enough, they should get him, unless he prefers being on the West coast.

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    I don't think it will be a battle.

    I'd wager he's made up his mind.
    You might be right, but teams will still try to change it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NerfBall55 View Post
    I don't think it will be a battle.

    I'd wager he's made up his mind.
    I expect it's either the Dodgers, Angels, Giants or Yankees.

    I'd be shocked if he signs elsewhere.
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    Re: The Hunt For Shohei Otani

    Quote Originally Posted by rajah View Post
    I still think that if the Yankees want him enough, they should get him, unless he prefers being on the West coast.
    https://sports.yahoo.com/shohei-otan...063136007.html

    Eleven teams in all, including the Los Angeles Dodgers, Chicago Cubs, San Diego Padres and Houston Astros, face the $300,000 ceiling, complicating his decision even more. Otani considered signing with the Dodgers out of high school.
    If I remember correctly, his decision not to sign was about not making waves with the NPB system, not because he was unhappy with any offer/circumstance from the individual team. If that's the case I've got the Dodgers way ahead of everyone else this offseason.
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    If he wants to hit, why would he prefer a NL team where he would have to play the OF on off days? Does he like being out there as well as hitting? That seems surprising if true.

    Maybe he considered the Dodgers out of h.s/ because they were courting him then, when other teams were not. I am not at all convinced by that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEBOSS84 View Post
    I truly believe Tanaka can be such an advantage for us (they worked out together). I'm wondering what the timeline for the posting is vs Tanaka's opt-out timeline. I feel like the opt-out timeline would be much earlier, so that can actually work against us.
    He also worked out with Darvish.

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    Re: The Hunt For Shohei Otani

    I would be very surprised if he doesn't come to NY. The headlines would write themselves.

    On a whole, I am excited that he is coming to ML Baseball. A great story line for the offseason.
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    Ugh. Don't go to LA (or Boston) you bastar*.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClownPickle View Post
    Ugh. Don't go to LA (or Boston) you bastar*.
    Who knows, but I am not getting my hopes up on this one. My pessimistic view is that he will sign with the Dodgers.......

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    At first I was, like, "Oh, great, another armchair pitching coach here" but then I watched the video and I couldn't agree more. I mean, it's just a video and everything is relative (we don't know the count or how well he mixes his pitches, or what other pitches he has) but that pitch, in a vacuum, did not impress me much.
    It's still tough to do from an armchair and just a video.

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    Re: The Hunt For Shohei Otani

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    I saw you started this thread, Thebo, and I thought maybe Sho'hei Otani was a Jewish holiday I'd never heard of.
    I thought it was a Russian submarine.

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    With the international restrictions, he'll be pitching for his next contract. What teams give him the best chance to showcase his stuff? Yankees have to be near the top
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    Re: The Hunt For Shohei Otani

    Quote Originally Posted by JL25and3 View Post
    I saw you started this thread, Thebo, and I thought maybe Sho'hei Otani was a Jewish holiday I'd never heard of.
    Or a new Russian submarine.

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    Re: The Hunt For Shohei Otani

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    Re: The Hunt For Shohei Otani

    Does Otani even know Matsui?
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    Re: The Hunt For Shohei Otani

    Quote Originally Posted by flymick24 View Post
    Does Otani even know Matsui?
    I don't know, but this was said two weeks ago.

    https://twitter.com/YankeeSource/sta...94564011667456

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    Expect Hideki Matsui to play a big role in the Yankees chase for Otani.
    5:48 PM - Aug 29, 2017
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    Re: The Hunt For Shohei Otani

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    https://twitter.com/YankeeSource/sta...94564011667456

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    Expect Hideki Matsui to play a big role in the Yankees chase for Otani.
    5:48 PM - Aug 29, 2017
    This guy is a Yankee fan, just like you and me.

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    Re: The Hunt For Shohei Otani

    Quote Originally Posted by THEBOSS84 View Post
    This guy is a Yankee fan, just like you and me.
    I've thought that since his tweets started appearing on forums, but was surprised to read in his bio:

    David P., a Scout on Pacific Rim, Tweets MLB/NPB/Yankee information
    And he's apparently located in Japan.

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    Re: The Hunt For Shohei Otani

    Don't want to get your hopes up. Just for record Otani did say that Matsui was his idol. He wanted to be Matsui as a hitter and tried to learn hitting from Matsui by watching his game tape in high school. He said it in 2015 when Matsui and Jeter came to Japan for league opening.

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    Re: The Hunt For Shohei Otani

    From 2012 after he decided to not sign in the States:

    http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/40605440/

    A dozen MLB teams had scouted Otani, with the most ardent pursuers said to have been the Los Angeles Dodgers, Texas Rangers, Boston Red Sox and Baltimore Orioles. Sources said the Dodgers appeared to be the most eager of the group.
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    Re: The Hunt For Shohei Otani

    Quote Originally Posted by just-blaze View Post
    Boooo.

    That's the same argument Rangers' fans made for Tanaka (albeit not completely true).

    Im really expecting him to end up with the Sox. Im not getting fooled again.
    I don't think the he will elect the Sox after the way the fan base treated Matsuzaka towards the end of his contract

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    Re: The Hunt For Shohei Otani

    Quote Originally Posted by rajah View Post
    I don't know why you would expect the Sox to be a likely competitive destination. They cannot outbid. The local endorsements in New England, while significant, are not nearly equal to the local NY endorsements and exposure. And the Sox certainly do not have the Yankees' international presence. Furthermore, there is a much, much larger Japanese community in NY than in Boston.

    The real competitors, I surmise, are on the West coast, where he might prefer to live. I would say the Dodgers, but I think he will prefer the DH slot to playing in the OF, both because the former is less taxing and because it has less of an injury risk. I think the latter concern should be important to him, as an injury, like that of Fowler's, conceivably could cost him the big free agency pay that should come later.

    So, I think the Mariners and the Angels are the most important competitors. But I am optimistic, at least if they are sold on him enough to be willing to make some commitments, albeit contingent, on the DH role.

    My money is on the Yankees with the dodgers as a close second

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    Re: The Hunt For Shohei Otani

    Why is this guy coming over now? He stands to lose 100 million or more.

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