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    Quote Originally Posted by melon View Post
    Pats getting Cooks? Uh oh...
    Without giving up Butler. The rich get richer, the smart get smarter.
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    Moving again: the Raiders are relocating from Oakland for the second time. The owners approve the Raiders to Las Vegas, 31-1 with the Miami Dolphins against the move
    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...e-to-las-vegas

    Announcement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxkPWPH81p8
    Reaction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RiAuf9Fnig

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    Moving again: the Raiders are relocating from Oakland for the second time. The owners approve the Raiders to Las Vegas, 31-1 with the Miami Dolphins against the move
    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...e-to-las-vegas

    Announcement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxkPWPH81p8
    Reaction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RiAuf9Fnig
    That's 2 professional teams for Vegas - the Golden Knights are their NHL team. Vegas will also get an NBA team soon, IMO, since the state of the art T-Mobile arena would be ideal for them to play in. The Maloofs tried to move the Kings there unsuccessfully- but in today's environment, would probably be approved.

    San Diego, surprisingly, is down to 1 professional team- the Padres.

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    I can't believe 31 owners approved the move. This is horrible for the NFL. Plus the fact that they are going to be a lame duck team for 2 seasons and expect Oakland fans to support. I hate Mark Davis and his goofy haircut

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    I can't believe 31 owners approved the move. This is horrible for the NFL. Plus the fact that they are going to be a lame duck team for 2 seasons and expect Oakland fans to support. I hate Mark Davis and his goofy haircut
    I can't stop staring at his hair when he speaks, as I'm partly inspecting it to see if it's a wig. If there was a remake of the 3 Stooges, he'd make a good Moe.

    Why do you think this is horrible for the NFL, assuming that there was no way that Oakland was going to help out with a stadium? (I ask that knowing that millions of fans in California agree with you)

    Do you think that the Raiders should be the team moving to LA, or that they should have waited longer for Oakland to come through with a stadium proposal? Or do you think that Davis should have paid for the entire stadium- like Stan Kroenke did for the Rams and Chargers?

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    I can't stop staring at his hair when he speaks, as I'm partly inspecting it to see if it's a wig. If there was a remake of the 3 Stooges, he'd make a good Moe.

    Why do you think this is horrible for the NFL, assuming that there was no way that Oakland was going to help out with a stadium? (I ask that knowing that millions of fans in California agree with you)

    Do you think that the Raiders should be the team moving to LA, or that they should have waited longer for Oakland to come through with a stadium proposal? Or do you think that Davis should have paid for the entire stadium- like Stan Kroenke did for the Rams and Chargers?
    I'd say it's his real hair because who would pay for a rug like that?

    I know Vegas has a growing population but I just don't view it as a real city. Maybe it will work out.

    I suppose I can't blame Davis since he is poor for an NFL owner and Oakland is not willing to help put the A's or Warriors. The Chargers leaving is probably the bigger tragedy.

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    I'd say it's his real hair because who would pay for a rug like that?

    I know Vegas has a growing population but I just don't view it as a real city. Maybe it will work out.

    I suppose I can't blame Davis since he is poor for an NFL owner and Oakland is not willing to help put the A's or Warriors. The Chargers leaving is probably the bigger tragedy.
    Fair enough.

    Where other franchises were probably frustrated when opposing teams would take over the home team's stadium, Vegas is designed for visiting fans to supply a bulk of the ticket sales- and tourism related money. Opposing team's fans will probably be welcomed with open arms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by melon View Post
    I can't stop staring at his hair when he speaks, as I'm partly inspecting it to see if it's a wig. If there was a remake of the 3 Stooges, he'd make a good Moe.

    Why do you think this is horrible for the NFL, assuming that there was no way that Oakland was going to help out with a stadium? (I ask that knowing that millions of fans in California agree with you)

    Do you think that the Raiders should be the team moving to LA, or that they should have waited longer for Oakland to come through with a stadium proposal? Or do you think that Davis should have paid for the entire stadium- like Stan Kroenke did for the Rams and Chargers?
    He may be poor for a NFL owner, but he's still beyond rich. Oakland is a growing city and is part of the richest corridor in America. There's no reason that this guy couldn't get a new stadium built.
    Having said that, football stadiums are the worst investment because it's only in use 10 times a year, plus maybe 10-15 concerts. Is there a MLS team out there? At least with baseball or basketball/hockey arenas you they get not only more home games but many more concerts, events, etc since most events don't need 70,000 seats.

    It's the most Raiders thing ever to finally get good after 20 years and then they move.

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    He may be poor for a NFL owner, but he's still beyond rich. Oakland is a growing city and is part of the richest corridor in America. There's no reason that this guy couldn't get a new stadium built.
    Having said that, football stadiums are the worst investment because it's only in use 10 times a year, plus maybe 10-15 concerts. Is there a MLS team out there? At least with baseball or basketball/hockey arenas you they get not only more home games but many more concerts, events, etc since most events don't need 70,000 seats.

    It's the most Raiders thing ever to finally get good after 20 years and then they move.
    MLS teams all (except New England) have their own soccer only stadiums now.

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    Can you say - Lloyd Christmas?


    I'm pretty opposed to having cities pay for new stadiums.
    With these sports leagues making billions of dollars, there's no way owners should be asking for funding from a city.
    Why doesn't the league create a fund for new stadiums? Maybe I'm missing something.....

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    For a sport that is supposed to be the most popular in the US, the NFL sure knows how to treat its fans shinty when these teams just up and move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RhodyYanksFan View Post
    He may be poor for a NFL owner, but he's still beyond rich. Oakland is a growing city and is part of the richest corridor in America. There's no reason that this guy couldn't get a new stadium built.
    Having said that, football stadiums are the worst investment because it's only in use 10 times a year, plus maybe 10-15 concerts. Is there a MLS team out there? At least with baseball or basketball/hockey arenas you they get not only more home games but many more concerts, events, etc since most events don't need 70,000 seats.

    It's the most Raiders thing ever to finally get good after 20 years and then they move.

    BB55 might be able to give a local perspective on this, but what did Alameda County end up offering? I guess I have the same question for what SD County ultimately offered the Chargers to stay. I'm not defending Davis/Spanos, but wanted to get some perspective as I know negotiations have been going on for years.

    I think Davis is putting up ~1/3rd of the new stadium funding in Vegas. Hotel room tax and Sheldon Adelson will provide the other 2/3rds. Does anyone know how paying 1/3rd compares to the other new stadiums? I read that the new Rams stadium and MetLife didn't involve public funds, but the others did.

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