Non-Presidential News Stories That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread

[Texsahara]

I suppose it's just that I comprehend the argument, or at least a form of it, more with this issue than with many of the others you mentioned. There are issues I don't think can coherently be argued for, (pro slavery, anti-gay marriage, pro school segregation, anti-women voting), while I think the pro life perspective can coherently be argued for.

There's the difference between our views then. I don't think there is a compelling argument to take away my right to choose. It's simply your personal belief system at work. I get that but I don't agree and so will continue to be dismissive of people trying to take my rights away be it abortion or my right to marry who I choose or my right to sit in the front of the bus.

[ClownPickle]

I think the point Maynerd was making, which I understand you don't agree with, is that using language like "a parasitic collection of human tissue and DNA" does nothing to influence those on the other side of the ledger. In fact, it makes them more likely to resist seeing your POV. Now, I'm not sure how much using softer language will touch the hearts and minds of pro-lifers, but I'm pretty confident this is non-productive to counter-productive at best. That doesn't seem important to you, probably because you also doubt whether that matters or not. But if I were strategizing, I'd be less cynical towards the opposing POV even if that didn't move the needle much or at all.

Well stated.

[Yankee Tripper]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...als/ar-AAzZIZC


Even Woodchucks hate Paul Ryan

[Soriambi]

There's the difference between our views then. I don't think there is a compelling argument to take away my right to choose. It's simply your personal belief system at work. I get that but I don't agree and so will continue to be dismissive of people trying to take my rights away be it abortion or my right to marry who I choose or my right to sit in the front of the bus.

Yeah, I think naturally if you've considered and comprehend at least part of another perspective, you're going to be less dismissive of it, even if you ultimately disagree, as opposed to a perspective you've considered and determined to be based solely on racism or homophobia or religion. And note that I didn't necessarily say compelling--I said comprehensible.

[jlw1980]

http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbyi...n-random-black

Probe found Fla. police chief told officers to pin unsolved crimes on random black people: report

The police chief in a small Florida town is accused of encouraging his officers to pin unsolved crimes on random, nearby black people so the department would have a better arrest record, the Miami Herald reported Thursday.

Former Biscayne Park Chief Raimundo Atesiano and two officers, Raul Fernandez and Charlie Dayoub, have been charged with falsely accusing a black Haitian-American teenager — identified as T.D. — with burglaries to impress local officials in the village north of Miami Shores.

All have pleaded not guilty to the accusations. A trial date is set for later this month.

[RhodyYanksFan]

The Fort Meyers Police Department has a real-life Farva from Super Troopers:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/offbe...ing/ar-AAzCutA



But apparently the officer wasn't convinced, pointing to dubious evidence:



Between that, and the fact that he tossed his only evidence out the window, this guy's never making Detective.

But did he order a liter-a-cola?

[RhodyYanksFan]

https://www.npr.org/2018/07/11/62812...-investigation

House Republicans and outside conservative groups are rallying around Ohio GOP Rep. Jim Jordan as he fights off allegations that he was aware that the Ohio State team doctor was sexually abusing wrestlers more than 20 years ago — back when Jordan was an assistant coach.

Personal scandals often end political careers on Capitol Hill, but so far, House Republicans are rallying to Jordan's side, including House Speaker Paul Ryan — the man whose job Jordan hopes to take.

"Jim Jordan is a friend of mine," Ryan said. "We haven't always agreed with each other over the years but I have always known Jim Jordan to be a man of honesty and a man of integrity."

I think I've read this story before...

Unshaken by Abuse Scandal, Conservatives Sticking w/ Donald Trump

Unshaken by Abuse Scandal, Conservatives Sticking w/ Roy Moore

Unshaken by Abuse Scandal, Conservatives Sticking w/ Blake Fahrenthold

Unshaken by Abuse Scandal, Conservatives Sticking w/ Eric Greitens

[Tyler Durden]

https://www.npr.org/2018/07/11/62812...-investigation



I think I've read this story before...

Unshaken by Abuse Scandal, Conservatives Sticking w/ Donald Trump

Unshaken by Abuse Scandal, Conservatives Sticking w/ Roy Moore

Unshaken by Abuse Scandal, Conservatives Sticking w/ Blake Fahrenthold

Unshaken by Abuse Scandal, Conservatives Sticking w/ Eric Greitens

I need a moment to let all this civility and pragmatic political centrism waft over me.

[jlw1980]

https://www.npr.org/2018/07/12/62851...paul-ryans-car

A Family Of Woodchucks Ate Paul Ryan's Car

[JL25and3]

I'm posting this here rather than in the Trump thread to underscore the fact that this doesn't implicate Trump or anyone in his campaign in the slightest. But it's a very big deal.

Mueller indicts twelve Russian officers on charges of hacking into DNC and other computers.

Count One charges eleven defendants for conspiring to access computers without authorization, and to cause damage to those computers, in connection with efforts to steal documents and release them in order to interfere with the election.

Counts Two through Nine charge eleven defendants with aggravated identity theft by employing the usernames and passwords of other persons to commit computer fraud.

Count Ten charges the eleven conspirators with money laundering by transferring cryptocurrencies through a web of transactions in order to purchase computer servers, register domains, and make other payments in furtherance of their hacking activities, while trying to conceal their identities and their links to the Russian government.

Count Eleven charges two defendants for a separate conspiracy to access computers without authorization, and to cause damage to those computers, in connection with efforts to infiltrate computers used to conduct elections.

Finally, a forfeiture allegation seeks the forfeiture of property involved in the criminal activity.

There is no allegation in this indictment that any American citizen committed a crime. There is no allegation that the conspiracy altered the vote count or changed any election result.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/speech/d...ictment-twelve

[jlw1980]

I'm posting this here rather than in the Trump thread to underscore the fact that this doesn't implicate Trump or anyone in his campaign in the slightest. But it's a very big deal.

Mueller indicts twelve Russian officers on charges of hacking into DNC and other computers.



https://www.justice.gov/opa/speech/d...ictment-twelve

COINCIDENTALLY, a bunch of gop reps are now trying to impeach Rosenstein. Not Drumpf. Rosenstein.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pol...achment-719816

House conservatives are preparing a new push to oust Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, according to three conservative Capitol Hill sources — putting the finishing touches on an impeachment filing even as Rosenstein announced the indictment of 12 Russian intelligence officers for interfering in the 2016 election.

House Freedom Caucus Chairman Mark Meadows, in fact, had the impeachment document on the floor of the House at the very moment that Rosenstein spoke to reporters and TV cameras Friday.

[RYMASTER or Ryan_Yankees]

COINCIDENTALLY, a bunch of gop reps are now trying to impeach Rosenstein. Not Drumpf. Rosenstein.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pol...achment-719816

Doesn't matter as the Senate would never vote to remove him. It's just another desperate attempt to muddy the waters.

[Yankees1962]

Doesn't matter as the Senate would never vote to remove him. It's just another desperate attempt to muddy the waters.

Yup, it's all BS.

[theDurk]

Doesn't matter as the Senate would never vote to remove him. It's just another desperate attempt to muddy the waters.

Awwwww, but think of all the neat hearings we will have as they make complete fools of themselves.

[JL25and3]

Awwwww, but think of all the neat hearings we will have as they make complete fools of themselves.

I’m not sure they’ll ever be able to top the Strzok hearing. Rosenstein does strike me as unflappable, though, and will allow them to make complete fools of themselves at every opportunity.

[jlw1980]

Doesn't matter as the Senate would never vote to remove him. It's just another desperate attempt to muddy the waters.

I know but it's so utterly ridiculous.

[Texsahara]

I’m not sure they’ll ever be able to top the Strzok hearing. Rosenstein does strike me as unflappable, though, and will allow them to make complete fools of themselves at every opportunity.

Rosenstein is a badass. Who knew?!

[Yankees1962]

Rosenstein is a badass. Who knew?!

Obviously, he's a lot smarter and probably tougher than any of those congressmen.