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    Re: Non-Presidential News Stories That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by philleotardo View Post
    Go on...
    A lot of the media and celebrities donít mention the fact she executed him while he was sleeping and robbed him after the fact. Thatís not self defense

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    Quote Originally Posted by fightingirish595 View Post
    Cyntonia brown, itís amazing to me how many people donít know the facts about this story
    Itís a terrible story. Clemency was the right call, but I hope sheís provided with some kind of support system when sheís released.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fightingirish595 View Post
    A lot of the media and celebrities donít mention the fact she executed him while he was sleeping and robbed him after the fact. Thatís not self defense
    She was a child sex slave and he bought her. I feel no remorse for him. Only for her.
    The class which has the power to rob upon a large scale has also the power to control the government and legalize their robbery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlw1980 View Post
    She was a child sex slave and he bought her. I feel no remorse for him. Only for her.
    Wrong. She was not bought. This is a lie. Read the case. They met at a sonic where they came to a deal of 150 dollars. There’s also no evidence that’s shows he knew she was a child

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    Quote Originally Posted by JL25and3 View Post
    Itís a terrible story. Clemency was the right call, but I hope sheís provided with some kind of support system when sheís released.
    My beef isnít with that. Itís with the media and celebrities blatantly lying about the case

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    Quote Originally Posted by fightingirish595 View Post
    My beef isnít with that. Itís with the media and celebrities blatantly lying about the case
    I donít think theyíre blatantly lying. Some of the "facts" leave a lot of room for interpretation.

    It doesnít matter, though. Her conviction wasnít overturned, so legally the facts are still as the jury determined them. Her sentence was just reduced, and appropriately so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JL25and3 View Post
    I donít think theyíre blatantly lying. Some of the "facts" leave a lot of room for interpretation.

    It doesnít matter, though. Her conviction wasnít overturned, so legally the facts are still as the jury determined them. Her sentence was just reduced, and appropriately so.
    Itís eother blatant lying or just horrible horrible irresponsible journalism. The facts are easily accessible

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    Quote Originally Posted by fightingirish595 View Post
    Itís eother blatant lying or just horrible horrible irresponsible journalism. The facts are easily accessible
    They are not as unambiguous as you seem to think, but what difference does it make! Why, of all the cases in the world, does this one matter so much to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fightingirish595 View Post
    Wrong. She was not bought. This is a lie. Read the case. They met at a sonic where they came to a deal of 150 dollars. Thereís also no evidence thatís shows he knew she was a child
    She wasn't a willing participant. Her boyfriend/pimp sold her. And she was 15. I don't care if he knew; she was still a child. I think she should be pardoned.

    This isn't the hill to die on, at any rate.
    The class which has the power to rob upon a large scale has also the power to control the government and legalize their robbery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fightingirish595 View Post
    Cyntonia brown, itís amazing to me how many people donít know the facts about this story
    I think it's even more amazing that people can know the facts of this story and still believe that justice was served with the initial sentence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JL25and3 View Post
    They are not as unambiguous as you seem to think, but what difference does it make! Why, of all the cases in the world, does this one matter so much to you?
    The forensic evidence is strong. If you’ve got a fact you can dispute, dispute it. Also it matters because its getting a lot of attention and after reading the case a lot of it is being lied about and misrepresented by media and celebrities. It’s important that it be called out
    Quote Originally Posted by jlw1980 View Post
    She wasn't a willing participant. Her boyfriend/pimp sold her. And she was 15. I don't care if he knew; she was still a child. I think she should be pardoned.

    This isn't the hill to die on, at any rate.
    Again, her boyfriend/pimp did not sell her to this man, and she was 16 when she killed the victim, please recheck the story
    Quote Originally Posted by Texsahara View Post
    I think it's even more amazing that people can know the facts of this story and still believe that justice was served with the initial sentence.
    She shouldn’t have been tried as an adult. That was ridiculous

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    I canít imagine the state of mind this poor child must have been in after what she suffered. Enough victim blaming. Only crime is that she spent one second in jail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YankeePride1967 View Post
    I canít imagine the state of mind this poor child must have been in after what she suffered. Enough victim blaming. Only crime is that she spent one second in jail.
    Ahhh. This is what people do. Instead of providing anything they just default to victim blaming which itís not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fightingirish595 View Post
    Ahhh. This is what people do. Instead of providing anything they just default to victim blaming which itís not.
    Well, she was a victim. He did rape her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JL25and3 View Post
    Well, she was a victim. He did rape her.
    She was raped by her pimp/boyfriend. Not by the person she murdered. According to her they never even had sex

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    Quote Originally Posted by fightingirish595 View Post
    She was raped by her pimp/boyfriend. Not by the person she murdered. According to her they never even had sex
    Fair. His intent was to rape her. She stopped him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JL25and3 View Post
    Fair. His intent was to rape her. She stopped him.
    How was his intent to rape her when he paid her to have sex with him. How was he trying to rape her when he was shot in his head in his sleep with his hands under his head. Please explain how this is possibile

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    Quote Originally Posted by fightingirish595 View Post
    How was his intent to rape her when he paid her to have sex with him. How was he trying to rape her when he was shot in his head in his sleep with his hands under his head. Please explain how this is possibile
    She was underage. Paying for rape is still rape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JL25and3 View Post
    She was underage. Paying for rape is still rape.
    What is your point. There is no evidence that he knew she was underage. As far as he knew she made the age of consent. This means he deserved to be shot in the back of the head?

    The age of consent in many states is 16. The age of consent in Canada as a whole is 16. The age of consent in most of Europe is 16 or even younger. He did nothing to deserve being shot. So why did she murder him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fightingirish595 View Post
    What is your point. There is no evidence that he knew she was underage. As far as he knew she made the age of consent. This means he deserved to be shot in the back of the head?

    The age of consent in many states is 16. The age of consent in Canada as a whole is 16. The age of consent in most of Europe is 16 or even younger. He did nothing to deserve being shot. So why did she murder him?
    It's really weird that this is the hill you're choosing to die on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fightingirish595 View Post
    What is your point. There is no evidence that he knew she was underage. As far as he knew she made the age of consent. This means he deserved to be shot in the back of the head?

    The age of consent in many states is 16. The age of consent in Canada as a whole is 16. The age of consent in most of Europe is 16 or even younger. He did nothing to deserve being shot. So why did she murder him?
    I didnít say that he deserved to get murdered. I said he paid to rape her. If he thought she was #batelylegal, thatís no excuse; itís his responsibility not to rape an underage girl. What the age of consent is somewhere else is irrelevant.

    Itís really weird that youíre choosing this hill to die on. Who cares what other people say about it for the 15 minutes its in the news?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RhodyYanksFan View Post
    It's really weird that this is the hill you're choosing to die on.
    When did holding the media accountable become a bad thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fightingirish595 View Post
    When did holding the media accountable become a bad thing?
    Youíd think it would be worthwhile to choose a story that mattered even a little, or whether the faults you see would make any difference to the outcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JL25and3 View Post
    I didnít say that he deserved to get murdered. I said he paid to rape her. If he thought she was #batelylegal, thatís no excuse; itís his responsibility not to rape an underage girl. What the age of consent is somewhere else is irrelevant.

    Itís really weird that youíre choosing this hill to die on. Who cares what other people say about it for the 15 minutes its in the news?
    I see a lot of people spewing misinformation about it and these people need to be called out and be made aware of the facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fightingirish595 View Post
    I see a lot of people spewing misinformation about it and these people need to be called out and be made aware of the facts.
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