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    Quote Originally Posted by JL25and3 View Post
    You’re right, I’ve expressed concerns about Harris' record as California AG. As I’ve said before, they don’t need to be disqualifying, but she needs to address them - straightforwardly, and preferably soon.
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    The Jussie Smollett hoax story is literally everywhere on all media. I can’t get away from it. So can we please put to rest the silly theory that the MSM is trying to cover it up to satisfy “their agenda”?

    On a side note, the story is so bizarre. I mean, I understand why he did it - I’m assuming to get mega publicity and to shed a spotlight on bigotry (giving him the benefit of the doubt on this motive). But he went about this in the worst possible way. Did he think the police would not investigate and figure out this brilliant scheme? So now his ass was beaten, he’s out whatever money he paid those dudes, his careee is ruined, and he’s likely going to jail. Well done!

    I’d laugh at the whole thing if I wasn’t so angry about the damage he’s done to civil discourse. Now whenever there is a hate crime, more people than would have before will dismiss it as a potential hoax because “Remember Jussie Smollett”? I guess he got his wish and his name will be famous now.

    (All of this assuming he’s guilty, of course, which it is looking like he is).
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    Quote Originally Posted by YankeePride1967 View Post
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...2e9_story.html

    A U.S. Coast Guard lieutenant and self-identified white nationalist has been arrested after federal investigators uncovered a cache of weapons and ammunition in his Maryland home that authorities say he stockpiled to launch a massive domestic terror attack targeting politicians and journalists.
Christopher Paul Hasson called for “focused violence” to “establish a white homeland” and dreamed of ways to “kill almost every last person on earth,” according to court records filed in U.S. District Court in Maryland. Though court documents do not detail a specific planned date for an attack, the government said he had been amassing supplies and weapons since at least 2017, developed a spreadsheet of targets that included House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and searched the Internet using phrases such as “best place in dc to see congress people” and “are supreme court justices protected.”
    Amongst this white nationalist’s google searches were “civil war if Trump impeached” “caravans” and “where to find Congress people”. And of course the media, whom Trump repeatedly says is “the enemy of the people”, most recently as yesterday. Words matter! Especially when you are the so-called President.

    And Trump’s response. A congratulatory tweet saying good job for catching this would be domestic terrorist? Nope. Nothing. Imagine if it was an illegal immigrant or even worse someone of Islamic descent. Or if the targets were Republican. What a soulless person
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    Quote Originally Posted by RhodyYanksFan View Post
    You also left out his pretty abysmal (compared to the rest of the field) history on gun legislation. I voted for him in 2016 and won't rule out him getting my vote again this year but it's not a slam dunk. But it's not because he's a white male.



    I see you talk over and over about how the government trying to help people backfires and doesn't do what it's intended, but (correct me if I'm wrong) I have yet to see you rail against all the ways government helps corporations which seem to always work out well for the corporations. If you think welfare is a slippery slope that creates dependency, but are fine with Walmart getting tax breaks written specifically for them while hundreds of thousands of their employees need SNAP to eat I don't know what to say. I'm fine with the idea of a free market, but right now that's a myth because the laws and lawmakers are slanted so far towards assisting corporations to the detriment of the citizens. If we need to be self reliant, so should they.



    and now, back to you Sean.
    I speak out against this all the time. Im completely against what you are describing. Thats crony capitalism and it should be outlawed and have a penalty of jail time. Things would be cleaned up real quick.
    You want to get rid of stuff like this? Your answer is to give more power to the government--this will have the opposite effect whether its Dems or Republicans in office. You seem to think that if we just elect better top men, that will change. I guarantee it wont. The only way to curb it is to take power away from the government. Make it so they dont have the ability to pick winners and losers like they do with Amazon or Walmart or GE.
    Ive said this on here on multiple occasions.

    I dont understand the Sean comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyler Durden View Post
    How is Tulsi Gabbard a war hawk?

    Unless I missed something, she seems pretty anti-interventionist/anti-regime change in her foreign policy stances.
    Yeah from what ive seen she is pretty anti-intervention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Texsahara View Post
    Yup. Great job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trapper700 View Post
    She's not left of Hillary or Obama on foreign policy. Unless you agree with Steve Bannon, who thinks that “she would fit perfectly with the administration. She gets the foreign policy stuff, the Islamic terrorism stuff.” She even often criticized Obama for not being tough enough. She's frequently been shown to support "the war on terror" by regimes such as Sisi in Egypt and Assad in Syria, ignoring their human rights violations.

    Also she's received over $100k in donations from companies such as Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, Northrop Grumman, BAE Systems and Boeing. Weird for an anti-war candidate to get so much funding from the companies that produce a good chunk of the country's weapons.
    She would fit because the administration, like her see the wars we are tangled up in right now as a complete waste with no actual goals.
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    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna973726

    A few hours after President Donald Trump described The New York Times in a tweet as “a true ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE,” A.G. Sulzberger, the newspaper’s publisher, accused him of a “reckless” and “dangerous” attack that could put the lives of journalists at risk.

    Sulzberger’s response, published on The Times’ corporate website, noted that many presidents, including Ronald Reagan and John F. Kennedy, have criticized the press, but they also understood its value.



    And was proven correct
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    Quote Originally Posted by YankeePride1967 View Post
    Amongst this white nationalist’s google searches were “civil war if Trump impeached” “caravans” and “where to find Congress people”. And of course the media, whom Trump repeatedly says is “the enemy of the people”, most recently as yesterday. Words matter! Especially when you are the so-called President.

    And Trump’s response. A congratulatory tweet saying good job for catching this would be domestic terrorist? Nope. Nothing. Imagine if it was an illegal immigrant or even worse someone of Islamic descent. Or if the targets were Republican. What a soulless person
    Further proof that the real danger to society is angry white men, not Muslims or Mexicans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RhodyYanksFan View Post
    Further proof that the real danger to society is angry white men, not Muslims or Mexicans.
    Exactly. And white men commit virtually all mass shootings here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoyoteYankee View Post
    The Jussie Smollett hoax story is literally everywhere on all media. I can’t get away from it. So can we please put to rest the silly theory that the MSM is trying to cover it up to satisfy “their agenda”?

    On a side note, the story is so bizarre. I mean, I understand why he did it - I’m assuming to get mega publicity and to shed a spotlight on bigotry (giving him the benefit of the doubt on this motive). But he went about this in the worst possible way. Did he think the police would not investigate and figure out this brilliant scheme? So now his ass was beaten, he’s out whatever money he paid those dudes, his careee is ruined, and he’s likely going to jail. Well done!

    I’d laugh at the whole thing if I wasn’t so angry about the damage he’s done to civil discourse. Now whenever there is a hate crime, more people than would have before will dismiss it as a potential hoax because “Remember Jussie Smollett”? I guess he got his wish and his name will be famous now.

    (All of this assuming he’s guilty, of course, which it is looking like he is).

    Good post. But also...


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    I'm pretty sure the murder of Laquan McDonald and the cover up carried out from CPD to the mayor's office as well as decades of systemic racism against Black Chicagoans has done more to "damage the image of Chicago" than the Smollett case has.
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    Smollett has now made it difficult to believe victims in the future. Ummm... no. If you choose to not believe victims in the future, that's a choice you are making and using this incident as an excuse.
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    Re: Non-Presidential News Stories That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Texsahara View Post
    Good post. But also...
    How do you quote tweets like that?

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    How do you quote tweets like that?
    I just copied and pasted. How it looks depends on the browser you're using I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RhodyYanksFan View Post
    Further proof that the real danger to society is angry white men, not Muslims or Mexicans.
    White people are almost as bad as these white supremacist Nigerans roaming around Chicago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YankeePride1967 View Post
    Exactly. And white men commit virtually all mass shootings here.
    Thats not even close to being true considering % of the population for each race.
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/...hooter-s-race/

    And the pulse nightclub shooter and the couple from San Bernadino disagree.

    Edit: this is terrorist attacks. I listed mass shootings.
    https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...hos-behind-it/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jburke View Post
    Thats not even close to being true considering % of the population for each race.
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/...hooter-s-race/

    And the pulse nightclub shooter and the couple from San Bernadino disagree.
    And the Newtown shooter and the Charlestown shooter and the Aurora shooter (both of them) and the Parkland shooter and the Las Vegas shooter would disagree. Just stop.

    You're big "gotcha" statistic is "only" 60% of mass shootings are done by white males?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RhodyYanksFan View Post
    And the Newtown shooter and the Charlestown shooter and the Aurora shooter (both of them) and the Parkland shooter and the Las Vegas shooter would disagree. Just stop.

    You're big "gotcha" statistic is "only" 60% of mass shootings are done by white males?
    And very little done by illegal immigrants and people of Islamic descent
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    Re: Non-Presidential News Stories That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by RhodyYanksFan View Post
    You're big "gotcha" statistic is "only" 60% of mass shootings are done by white males?
    That number is horrific, and clearly a problem. But, in Jburke's defense, it's a pretty solid "gotcha" stat, in response to...
    Quote Originally Posted by YankeePride1967
    And white men commit virtually all mass shootings here.
    60% =/= "virtually all."

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    Quote Originally Posted by RhodyYanksFan View Post
    And the Newtown shooter and the Charlestown shooter and the Aurora shooter (both of them) and the Parkland shooter and the Las Vegas shooter would disagree. Just stop.

    You're big "gotcha" statistic is "only" 60% of mass shootings are done by white males?
    How many white men are there in this country compared to other races? Who commits a higher percentage?

    Guy said "virtually all"
    Its like saying most crimes committed in Japan are committed by Japanese men.
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    So let’s waste more money on a wall which doesn’t even address the issue anyway and ignore the bigger problem. ‘Murica.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YankeePride1967 View Post
    And very little done by illegal immigrants and people of Islamic descent
    Wrong again
    https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...hos-behind-it/

    Im sure this is the story Rachael Maddow is feeding you, but you gotta check for yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jburke View Post
    Wrong again
    https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...hos-behind-it/

    Im sure this is the story Rachael Maddow is feeding you, but you gotta check for yourself.
    Those numbers are heavily skewed by one incident. That makes for poor analysis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YankeePride1967 View Post
    So let’s waste more money on a wall which doesn’t even address the issue anyway and ignore the bigger problem. ‘Murica.
    When has anyone mentioned a wall?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JL25and3 View Post
    Those numbers are heavily skewed by one incident. That makes for poor analysis.
    Im sure the Oaklahoma bombing skews it as well though.
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    Re: Non-Presidential News Stories That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Jburke View Post
    Im sure the Oaklahoma bombing skews it as well though.
    The article you cited looks at the period 9/12/01 - 12/31/16. Oklahoma City was in 1995.
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