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02-17-17 09:53 AM #6301
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For-profit prisons are being built as a response to Trump’s executive order last January, which authorizes an expansion of detention centers for immigrants across the US.
Yes, There Is a Trump Infrastructure Project Already Under Way: Building For-Profit Prisons for Immigrants (NY Magazine, February 16, 2017). http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...mmigrants.html
The profit angle to all the legislation and de-regulation happening behind Trump's antics -- follow the money so to speak -- is what makes me wonder about the efficacy of imagining Republicans' motivations as keeping their seats. Not offering an opinion, BUT the way "classic Third World corruption" works, a regime of unregulated corporate bribery and legislation-for-sale, like this one, frees the legislators and executive from thinking in terms of future elections. You can auction off a National Park to a sludge factory, or get a cut on defense contracts, and at one stroke make the sum that would take four or five election cycles of slightly-veiled grifting. Then you retire to New Zealand or the Moon or just your private estate in Connecticut or whatever. The Future does not exist for such men beyond this calculation, trust us... I do recognize in some of the faces in the news that special look of men who're privately chuckling at threats of not voting for them in 2018 or later. There is no ideology there, only comparing a smaller period of time (just a few months!) to a longer one, to make an obscene, an offensive amount of money.
Also kicking all non-White and/or Democrats out of the meeting to discuss ICE round-ups is being read as a grave sign that mass deportations have begun.
https://gutierrez.house.gov/media-ce...eaker-ryan-and
Originally Posted by Rep. Luis V. Gutiérrez (D-IL)
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02-17-17 09:55 AM #6302
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Actually there are pros if it came with guarantees that Israel would function as an actual democracy instead of as an apartheid society.
The first pro is that it would tip the voting population in such a way that Israel would no longer be able to operate as an oppressor state, but would become a true multi-ethnic society with everyone represented and. Everyone having a voice in national policy.
The second pro is that if Israel did become a truly working democracy in which Palestinians were represented and their needs ere addressed fairly, much if the tension in the Middle .east would be greatly reduced.
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02-17-17 09:56 AM #6303
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02-17-17 09:58 AM #6304
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The presidency doesn't change who you are. It reveals who you are. First Lady Michelle Obama (2015)
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02-17-17 10:22 AM #6305
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02-17-17 10:25 AM #6306
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02-17-17 10:31 AM #6307
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Thanks everyone. None of you have ever been disrespectful that I can recall. I appreciate that. I just meant in general, not at anyone specific here. Maybe I shouldn't have painted such a broad stroke there. In real life though it's rough. I'm not as close to some people anymore because of how angry they have gotten. One person completely severed a friendship because of the divide. It's unfortunate.
I'm actually an O'Reily fan. Been watching him since 2001. And he's a great author. His Killing series is really good. At least the ones I've read. Been meaning to read Killing The Rising Sun
The others I don't take seriously.
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02-17-17 10:50 AM #6308
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In real life people are scared that their rights are going to be taken away. That they'll lose their healthcare. That they'll be deported from the only country they've ever known. Sorry people were mean to you though.
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02-17-17 10:53 AM #6309
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02-17-17 11:11 AM #6310
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It's nobody's fault that they are needlessly worrying, for that's not the intent and it's been repeated numerous times.
As for those like Garcia de Rayos, she came her illegally (crime #1), then committed an identity theft crime (crime #2). My sister was a victim of identity theft and it took years, lawyers and lots of money to get her credit and tons of other related problems straightened out. She still runs into unresolved issues now and then. I have no sympathy whatsoever for someone like Ms. de Rayos.
With regards to Steve, and what seems like your sarcastically dismissing how people have treated him (unless I'm totally misreading you), if any "friend" here or in his real life caused any discomfort with their continual vile and demeaning behavior, I can't say I blame him one bit.
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02-17-17 11:23 AM #6311
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Earlier today Russian state media ran a negative editorial about Trump, criticizing him for contradictory remarks that are incompatible with each other. Reports are that the Kremlin has directed that its media outlets to do a 180 from its favorable Trump coverage up until now. It looks like the honeymoon is over.
For anyone who thought Hillary's attempts at the "Russia Reset" were a failure, maybe it's time to consider that it's Russia that's the problem and not the person reaching out to them. Even Hillary's outreach wasn't over this quickly. The Donald's inexperience and naïveté is showing in his boastful promises to have a great relationship with Russia.
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02-17-17 11:28 AM #6312
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02-17-17 11:29 AM #6313
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02-17-17 11:32 AM #6314
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02-17-17 11:33 AM #6315
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02-17-17 11:36 AM #6316
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02-17-17 11:40 AM #6317
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You may be right, though, from what I've read, she was arrested in 2008 for the identity theft crime, well into adulthood. Do we know when this crime was committed?
Either way, a crime is a crime is a crime. And, I'm especially sensitive that it was an identity theft crime, knowing what my sister went and is still going through nearly 10 years later. So eff de Rayos.
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02-17-17 11:44 AM #6318
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A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines.- Barry Manilow
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02-17-17 11:46 AM #6319
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02-17-17 11:47 AM #6320
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There's also contingency plans for an invasion of Canada. This is what these govt agencies do. They sit around & make plans on stuff that will likely never have a chance in hell of happening. But they have to be prepared for the unknown.
This proposal of mobilizing the Natl Guard is just more fake news meant to fan the flames of hysteria.If you can't change your mind, you can't change anything
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02-17-17 11:55 AM #6321
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it's serious and it's not serious.
mostly because the kind of people in charge don't really just contingency plan as a matter of due diligence. they are not exactly the diligent sort.
i could see this having some more intent behind it than the canada invasion, which btw we should definitely do asap
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02-17-17 12:03 PM #6322
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theoretically im not opposed to separating high risk pool, but i'd rather have them be in a high quality state run hospital network and really control the cost/benefit of treatment provided.
the va system is a bit of a mixed bag but generally delivers higher quality of care than the private sector for high need patients. could have that as a basis for the hospital for high risk patients.
something like 70-80% of healthcare insurance payout is to the top 5% cost cases, and over 50% are for chronic conditions. this is the largest driver of healthcare cost increase.
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02-17-17 12:44 PM #6323
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Sure, if by "mixed bag" you mean excessive wait times to be seen, a flawed governance model, insufficient staffing, inadequate facilities, and a stone-age recordkeeping system.
We have veterans that are dying before they can even be seen at a VA clinic. Otherwise the wait times (for those that live) would be even longer.
The VA is NOT the health care model you want to emulate.
"But what people tend to forget...is that being a Yankee is as much about character as it is about performance; as much about who you are as what you do."
- President Barack Obama
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02-17-17 12:50 PM #6324
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I think Chris Wallace is excellent. In fact I think he's the only conservative on Fox who doesn't slant the news at all. I try to catch his Sunday show every week because he asks the tough questions conservatives don't like to answer. He was bickering last night with O'Reilly and I though he won the argument handily.
Let the kids play.
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02-17-17 12:55 PM #6325
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