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    Re: President Donald Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by ClownPickle View Post
    Well I guess I fundamentally disagree. I don't think all federal misdemeanors are created equally and deserve the same penalty.

    I also don't believe everyone agrees it's OK to prosecute repeat offenders. Cause ya know? Child abuse.
    Everyone will never agree on anything. There are plenty of people okay with establishing baby jails because their parents should have known better. Sometimes you have to just decide what side of history you want to be on. I choose to be on the side that does not rip children away from their parents and put them in internment camps. Cause ya know? Child abuse.

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    Re: President Donald Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Texsahara View Post
    Everyone will never agree on anything. There are plenty of people okay with establishing baby jails because their parents should have known better. Sometimes you have to just decide what side of history you want to be on. I choose to be on the side that does not rip children away from their parents and put them in internment camps. Cause ya know? Child abuse.
    Meh. No one wants to see children put into jails. Knowing coming into a wildlife reserve and attempting to kill and injuring an animal. Bribing a public official or witness. Embezzlement and theft of public money or property. All federal misdemeanors. All things I believe deserve jail time. Of course, all these misdemeanors occur at a far less rate than illegal immigration. However, I fundamentally disagree having a child exonerates you.

    This uproar was missing during the previous administration This is just really an issue now for many due to the scale. Which the current administration is going to have to address with their new policies to prosecute.
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    Re: President Donald Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by ClownPickle View Post
    Meh. No one wants to see children put into jails. Knowing coming into a wildlife reserve and attempting to kill and injuring an animal. Bribing a public official or witness. Embezzlement and theft of public money or property. All federal misdemeanors. All things I believe deserve jail time. Of course, all these misdemeanors occur at a far less rate than illegal immigration. However, I fundamentally disagree having a child exonerates you.

    This uproar was missing during the previous administration This is just really an issue now for many die to the scale. Which the current administration is going to have to address with their new policies to prosecute.
    It's good that no one has claimed that then.

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    Re: President Donald Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Texsahara View Post
    It's good that no one has claimed that then.
    That's certainly been the implication, but whatever.
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    Re: President Donald Trump

    https://www.texastribune.org/2018/06...tory-abuse-an/
    Taxpayers have paid more than $1.5 billion in the past four years to private companies operating immigrant youth shelters accused of serious lapses in care, including neglect and sexual and physical abuse, an investigation by Reveal and The Texas Tribune has found.

    In nearly all cases, the federal government has continued to place migrant children with the companies even after serious allegations were raised and after state inspectors cited shelters with deficiencies, government and other records show.
    Allegations included staff members’ failure to seek medical attention for children. One had a burn, another a broken wrist, a third a sexually transmitted disease. In another shelter, staff gave a child medicine to which she was allergic, despite a warning on her medical bracelet. Inspectors also cited homes for “inappropriate contact” between children and staff, including a case in which a staff member gave children a pornographic magazine.

    In October, an employee appeared drunk when he showed up to work at a facility operated by Southwest Key Programs in San Benito, Texas. A drug test later found he was over the legal alcohol limit to drive. That was among the 246 violations state inspectors found at Southwest Key’s facilities, including rotten bananas and shampoo dispensers filled with hand sanitizer.
    In New York, a Guatemalan boy was sexually assaulted by an older boy at a shelter in 2013, according to a doctor’s report, and was treated at a hospital. After he was reunited with his mother, she received a hospital bill but, she later said, was told only that there had been “an incident with a boy.”
    At a facility in Maine run by a behavioral and mental health nonprofit, a social worker remained on the job for months after state regulators received a complaint in 2016 accusing him of having sex with an adult client.

    In those cases and dozens of others reviewed by Reveal from The Center for Investigative Reporting and The Texas Tribune, federal officials continued sending children who crossed the border to the shelters after the incidents came to light. Since 2014, 13 organizations that faced serious allegations or citations shared the $1.5 billion total – nearly half of what the federal government spent to house immigrant children in that time.

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    Re: President Donald Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Marsh View Post
    Wow!
    So make an argument for them. Change my mind.

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