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    Re: President Donald Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by ClownPickle View Post
    Is Gina Haspel the Kellyanne Conway of the CIA?
    Not sure but Haspel is known as the "torture queen." She was involved in "black sites"
    45* loves him some torture.
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    Re: President Donald Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Maynerd View Post
    I smell best-seller book.
    More interesting than the inevitable Stormy Daniels tome, for sure...although I question which will sell more.

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    Re: President Donald Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by YankeeFan1421 View Post
    My guess would be that Tillerson knew he was out before he criticized Putin. If so, your overall point stands I believe, but I don't think the announcement today was a result of the criticism yesterday...several reports, in fact, have Tillerson being told on Friday he was out.

    Still and all, it will be interesting if/when Tillerson really starts talking about the guy he considers a moron and his relationship with Russia.
    juicy
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    Re: President Donald Trump

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...gn-2020-459036
    President Donald Trump’s personal aide and body man John McEntee — known within the West Wing simply as Johnny — is leaving the White House and taking a position on Trump’s re-election campaign, the campaign announced Tuesday.

    McEntee is the latest member of Trump’s original inner circle, which included communications director Hope Hicks and bodyguard Keith Schiller, to leave the White House.

    An administration official confirmed that McEntee was abruptly escorted out of the White House on Monday, but did not know why. Another official said he would be mailed his belongings.

    The Wall Street Journal reported Tuesday that McEntee’s departure was triggered by a security issue.
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    Trump's personal aide Johnny McEntee was fired because he is currently under investigation by the Department of Homeland Security for serious financial crimes, a source familiar with his firing tells CNN’s @kaitlancollins.

    7:58 AM - 13 Mar 2018
    Abruptly escorted from the WH without even being allowed to gather his stuff but a position with the re-election campaign is fine. Okay.
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    Re: President Donald Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Maynerd View Post
    I smell best-seller book.
    I doubt it. Tillerson is a wealthy plugged in capitalist. He's not going to make waves, he's just going to continue making money.

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    Re: President Donald Trump

    You would think at some point someone he's appointed is going to strangle him before the secret service get into the room.
    Calmer than you are

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Bernard View Post
    I doubt it. Tillerson is a wealthy plugged in capitalist. He's not going to make waves, he's just going to continue making money.
    Translation, his definitions of right and wrong are vastly different than most of the rest of us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClownPickle View Post
    You would think at some point someone he's appointed is going to strangle him before the secret service get into the room.
    That’s why he fires them over Twitter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ojo View Post
    Translation, his definitions of right and wrong are vastly different than most of the rest of us.
    That's probably accurate. Tillerson is at the top of the American society pyramid. He's a white super wealthy male with connections to other white super wealthy males. The day to day politics that affect the rest of us really don't apply to him.

  10. #32135

    Re: President Donald Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by jlw1980 View Post
    Tillerson criticized Putin yesterday. Coincidence that he's fired today? I want to know what Putin has on Drumpf.
    Pompeo is a russia hawk and an agent of the Koch brothers. The new CIA head is some Bush era torturer. We’re still feeling the consequences of Obama choosing to let all these criminals skate.

    In other words, it’s not Putin. The rot is coming from here at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BB22 View Post
    Pompeo is a russia hawk and an agent of the Koch brothers. The new CIA head is some Bush era torturer. We’re still feeling the consequences of Obama choosing to let all these criminals skate.

    In other words, it’s not Putin. The rot is coming from here at home.
    As if these things are are mutually exclusive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ojo View Post
    As if these things are are mutually exclusive.
    Putin coerced Trump into firing the exxon guys he used to do deals with in order to replace him with an anti-Russia cold warrior? Did he also coerce Obama into not going after the Bush torturers? Cy Vance into not prosecuting Trump’s kids? Holder into not prosecuting basically every other white collar crook in Trump’s cabinet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BB22 View Post
    Pompeo is a russia hawk and an agent of the Koch brothers. The new CIA head is some Bush era torturer. We’re still feeling the consequences of Obama choosing to let all these criminals skate.
    Agreed. Fortunately, one of the few things Obama did correctly in this area was to make illegal torture illegal again, and I think the Yoo/Bybee memo has been sufficiently disgraced (even if its authors haven't) that they'd have to start from scratch to find a legal justification.

    I'll say this about the new CIA head: she seems to be well respected within the agency, at a time when the President and his Congressional flunkies have been doing everything they can to tear down the IC's reputation and morale. I don't want the CIA to be too powerful, but I don't want it in tatters, either. I'm interested to see whether and how she'll respond to the assertion by the House Intelligence Committee's Republicans that the CIA "just made a mistake."
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    Re: President Donald Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Bernard View Post
    I doubt it. Tillerson is a wealthy plugged in capitalist. He's not going to make waves, he's just going to continue making money.
    Yeah, when it was reported he called Trump "stupid" (or something like that) he pretty much evaded ever answering the question if he had actually said it. I don't think he's one to burn bridges. Business is business.
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    Re: President Donald Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by BB22 View Post
    Putin coerced Trump into firing the exxon guys he used to do deals with in order to replace him with an anti-Russia cold warrior? Did he also coerce Obama into not going after the Bush torturers? Cy Vance into not prosecuting Trump’s kids? Holder into not prosecuting basically every other white collar crook in Trump’s cabinet?
    I'm not saying any of that.
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    Re: President Donald Trump

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/13/whit...dismissal.html

    Steve Goldstein, Rex Tillerson's top spokesman at the State Department, was fired Tuesday for contradicting the official administration account of Tillerson's firing, a White House official told NBC News.
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    They’d probably fire a bunch of top State Department officials, except they don’t have any.

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    Re: President Donald Trump

    Why'd Trump fire Tillerson now?


    That suspicion was accelerated by the president’s words to the White House press corps before stepping aboard Marine One:

    "As soon as we get the facts straight, if we agree with them, we will condemn Russia or whoever it may be.”

    That is not support for Britain. It is the direct opposite.

    Britain and the United States share intelligence information fully, freely, and seamlessly. It’s inconceivable that the U.S. government has not already seen all the information that Theresa May saw before she rose in the House of Commons to accuse Russia.

    If the U.S. government had a serious concern about the reliability of that information, it would have expressed that concern directly and privately to the U.K. government before May spoke. But the U.S. had no such concern—that’s why the now-fired secretary of state and the U.S. ambassador to the United Kingdom both endorsed May’s words. When Trump raises doubts about the facts, about American agreement with its British ally, about the accuracy of the British accusation against Russia, Trump is not expressing good-faith uncertainty about imperfect information. Trump is rejecting the consensus view of the U.K. and U.S. intelligence communities about an act of Russian aggression—and, if his past behavior is any indication, preparing the way for his own determination to do nothing.

    It echoes the approach he took toward Russian intervention in the U.S. election to help elect him in 2016: Feign uncertainty about what is not uncertain in order to justify inaction.

    The U.S.-U.K. response to the Russian nerve gas attack should have been coordinated in advance. It was not. The U.S. statement of support for Britain should have arrived on the day that the prime minister delivered her accusation. It did not. The response—if any—should also already be agreed upon. It plainly has not been.

    The United Kingdom does not find itself deprived of U.S. support because of some British mistake or rush to judgment. Most of the U.S. government shares the British assessment of what happened—as attested by Tillerson’s statement in support of Britain, which would have relied on U.S. intelligence agency reports. Only Trump stands apart, vetoing any condemnation of Russia and perhaps punishing his secretary of state for breaking ranks on the president’s no-criticizing-Putin policy.
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    Re: President Donald Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by JL25and3 View Post
    They’d probably fire a bunch of top State Department officials, except they don’t have any.
    I think that's because the Dems are stone walling all the nominations that Trump has failed to make.
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    Re: President Donald Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by jlw1980 View Post
    Tillerson criticized Putin yesterday. Coincidence that he's fired today? I want to know what Putin has on Drumpf.
    Money laundering and numerous other financial crimes. Drumpf is probably heavily in debt to Russian banks and other Russian financiers (Mafia) whom Putin controls. They can call in his debts at any time and ruin him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Tripper View Post
    I think that's because the Dems are stone walling all the nominations that Trump has failed to make.
    They are at this point, but that doesn’t explain why positions weren’t filled a year ago.

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    Re: President Donald Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Marsh View Post
    They are at this point, but that doesn’t explain why positions weren’t filled a year ago.
    Read his post a little more closely.
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    Re: President Donald Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Tripper View Post
    I think that's because the Dems are stone walling all the nominations that Trump has failed to make.
    We need pre-approval offers. I get them from credit card companies all the time. Send the President a list of people who have been pre-approved for Executive positions and Ambassadorships and the like, and let him pick. Why wait until he names someone to approve them? Think outside the box.

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    Re: President Donald Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Marsh View Post
    Money laundering and numerous other financial crimes. Drumpf is probably heavily in debt to Russian banks and other Russian financiers (Mafia) whom Putin controls. They can call in his debts at any time and ruin him.
    What do you think the chances are of Mueller uncovering this?

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    Re: President Donald Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Marsh View Post
    They are at this point, but that doesn’t explain why positions weren’t filled a year ago.
    That's the joke. Trump recently blamed the Democrats for blocking nominations. The Dems countered by saying we can't block your nominations because you haven't made any.

    I think there are something like 67 posts Trump is supposed to nominate people for that Senate is supposed to confrim but Trump can't be bothered to find someone to nominate.

    I guess it would just be 67 more people Trump could potentially fire.
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