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10-11-18 07:45 PM #39026
Re: President Donald Trump
The Florida amendment covers everything except murder and sexual felonies. Other violent crimes - well, you've served your time, you're allowed to do most things. Voting is the first thing you should be able to do.
As for drawing the line, it's a question you ask frequently, but usually the answer is pretty simple. In this case, as in many others, the legislature usually draws that line (just as they define those crimes in the first place. Here, the legislature is being bypassed by a referendum, which is another way of deciding.A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines.- Barry Manilow
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10-12-18 08:57 AM #39027
Re: President Donald Trump
-Kevin
"My point is you can't compare things with statistics." Joe Morgan
"I'd have won that trial. I've often said that." Stephen A. Smith on the OJ Simpson trial
RIP, Pete.
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10-12-18 09:18 AM #39028
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10-12-18 10:38 AM #39029
Re: President Donald Trump
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10-12-18 11:30 AM #39030
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10-12-18 01:06 PM #39031
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10-12-18 01:06 PM #39032
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10-12-18 02:00 PM #39033
Everyone in prison is really innocent. Just ask them.
I’m on the fence about people who are currently incarcerated. They do lose a lot of basic constitutional rights, and the whole idea is that, for one reason or another, they’ve been removed from society. I wouldn’t argue for that too strongly.
However, the more I think about it, the more I beli ve that even murderers and sex felons should be re-enfranchised. They’ve served their time, their debt is paid, and I don’t see any reason they shouldn’t have full citizenship rights.
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10-12-18 02:15 PM #39034
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10-12-18 02:48 PM #39035
Re: President Donald Trump
While everyone was talking about Kanye....
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-en...ronment-office
The Senate voted Thursday to confirm a climate change skeptic and former industry attorney to lead the Department of Justice’s (DOJ) environment division.
Lawmakers voted 52 to 45 to confirm Jeffrey Bossert Clark to be the assistant attorney general for environment and natural resources. Sens. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) and Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.), both running for reelection GOP states, joined all Republicans present in voting to confirm Clark.
Clark is and attorney at the law firm Kirkland & Ellis, where he has represented numerous industry clients, including oil giant BP in its efforts to fight certain claims from the 2010 Deepwater Horizon disaster and spill, and the Chamber of Commerce. He’s said climate change science is “contestable.”
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10-12-18 03:58 PM #39036
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10-12-18 04:30 PM #39037
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On this one it's way more on the people who voted for Trump.
Seriously Trump's just going to keep nominating anti environment people to the EPA (Environmental Prevention Agency) and the Republicans hold the Senate. It's not like they can be blocked.
Plus Manchin represents Coal Country in WVA.Baseball is life;
the rest is just details.
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10-12-18 05:16 PM #39038
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10-12-18 06:29 PM #39039
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10-12-18 06:52 PM #39040
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10-12-18 08:10 PM #39041
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10-12-18 11:06 PM #39042
Re: President Donald Trump
At his latest rally in Ohio:
It also gave you a general who was incredible. He drank a little bit too much. You know who I’m talking about right? So Robert E. Lee was a great general. And Abraham Lincoln developed a phobia. He couldn’t beat Robert E. Lee.
He was going crazy. I don’t know if you know this story. But Robert E. Lee was winning battle after battle after battle. And Abraham Lincoln came home, he said, 'I can’t beat Robert E. Lee.' And he had all of his generals, they looked great, they were the top of their class at West Point. They were the greatest people. There’s only one problem — they didn’t know how the hell to win. They didn’t know how to fight. They didn’t know how.
And one day, it was looking really bad. And Lincoln just said, 'You,' hardly knew his name. And they said, 'Don’t take him, he’s got a drinking problem.' And Lincoln said, 'I don’t care what problem he has. You guys aren’t winning.'
And his name was Grant. General Grant. And he went in and he knocked the hell out of everyone. And you know the story. They said to Lincoln, 'You can’t use him anymore, he’s an alcoholic.' And Lincoln said, 'I don’t care if he’s an alcoholic, frankly, give me six or seven more just like him.' He started to win. Grant really did — he had a serious problem, a serious drinking problem, but man was he a good general. And he’s finally being recognized as a great general.
But Lincoln had almost developed a phobia, because he was having a hard time with a true great fighter, a great general Robert E. Lee. But Grant figured it out. And Grant is a great general, and Grant came from right here.A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines.- Barry Manilow
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10-14-18 10:28 AM #39043
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10-14-18 10:30 AM #39044
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10-14-18 11:31 AM #39045
Re: President Donald Trump
That's incorrect although I guess you might define "when it matters" differently than I would.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...e-manchin-iii/
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10-14-18 01:54 PM #39046
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10-14-18 08:37 PM #39047
Re: President Donald Trump
Thank you, Lesley Stahl, for doing the job journalists should have been doing all along by pushing back on the parade of lies.
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10-14-18 09:37 PM #39048
Re: President Donald Trump
Trump: I’m not denying climate change. But it could very well go back. You know, we’re talking about over a millions...
Stahl: But that’s denying it.
Trump: ...of years. They say that we had hurricanes that were far worse than what we just had with Michael.
Stahl: Who says that? "They say?"
Trump: People say. People say that it in the —
Stahl: Yeah, but what about the scientists who say it’s worse than ever?
Trump: You’d have to show me the scientists because they have a very big political agenda, Leslie.
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10-14-18 10:39 PM #39049
Re: President Donald Trump
There is also the practical problem of what it would do to local races. Some prisons are in out-of-the-way places where a few thousand inmates could be a voting bloc that would dominate the local precinct/district. The potential for "complications" is real.
Other than that, I also agree with full restitution upon time served, regardless of offence. if they get their passport back and pay taxes, they should vote."Deep to left! Yastrzemski will not get it! It's a home run! A three-run homer by Bucky Dent! And the Yankees now lead by a score of 3-2!" - New York Yankees announcer Bill White (October 2, 1978)
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10-14-18 11:57 PM #39050
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