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    Ahh . . . I guess that was a big year for you! And hit the big 5-0 last year. Many happy returns.
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    https://www.wtnh.com/news/connecticu...ons/1325505972

    Love how she justifies it by saying "we saved 100 jobs". Heartless


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    https://www.wtnh.com/news/connecticu...ons/1325505972

    Love how she justifies it by saying "we saved 100 jobs". Heartless


    Pure greatness. Super Intendent is best friends with the mayor, Gets an SUV as a signing bonus, had her office repainted 4 times because she kept on not liking the color.
    They had 1 counselor for every 250 students, along with social workers, and school psychs. That’s completely unheard of everywhere I have lived, and everywhere I have worked. I dont know how long they were able to keep that ratio, buts its awesome that they were able to do so for however long it lasted.

    Many states chose to cut down on school budgets during the recession. Many states (mostly red states) have not restored that funding since then, leading to issues such as these. As a district employee, its extremely frustrating.

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    They had 1 counselor for every 250 students, along with social workers, and school psychs. Thatís completely unheard of everywhere I have lived, and everywhere I have worked. I dont know how long they were able to keep that ratio, buts its awesome that they were able to do so for however long it lasted.

    Many states chose to cut down on school budgets during the recession. Many states (mostly red states) have not restored that funding since then, leading to issues such as these. As a district employee, its extremely frustrating.
    They could have taken 2 furlough days and saved everybodys Job. My university in the same city did this
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    They could have taken 2 furlough days and saved everybodys Job. My university in the same city did this

    And what about next year? And the year after that?

    I don't know what it's like in that state, but in CA, the districts have to present budgets for three years, which show how they are solvent, or will become solvent in that time, and have it approved by the state. At that time, they also have to factor in future enrollment (which is likely going down), future costs (In CA, that includes step raises for staff, pension requirements, etc.), and projected future funding from the state. Furlough days likely have to be approved by the state, as they may reduce the number of days of school below the required number of days as determined by the state. And then, if there is a union, they will have to negotiate with the union to come to an agreement about the furlough days, or laying people off. It's far from being as easy as just taking a few furlough days. That may be easier to do at a pubic university than in a public K-12 district, as school districts may be much more regulated (probably too much) than universities since k-12 education is compulsory, but higher education is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fightingirish595 View Post
    They could have taken 2 furlough days and saved everybodys Job. My university in the same city did this



    I think it is also important to point out that they have a teaching staff of 1,800 and 47 schools, not counting the adult education. And according to their most recent board meetings, their budget was short by over 6 million dollars in June, 2018. While losing any job is pretty awful, losing "only" 37 full time positions out of an employment force of over 1,800 is pretty good. That's not even one staff member per school, and significantly less than the 140 that was part of the original plan. And since school closure appears to be in the future for this district, chances are, there will be additional layoffs. As a school employee myself, I think it's a terrible position to be in for everyone, but it is the reality of working in schools. The best solution would be for the state to increase funding, but that could be years away.

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    In a word . . . Disgusting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casey at the Bat View Post
    I think it is also important to point out that they have a teaching staff of 1,800 and 47 schools, not counting the adult education. And according to their most recent board meetings, their budget was short by over 6 million dollars in June, 2018. While losing any job is pretty awful, losing "only" 37 full time positions out of an employment force of over 1,800 is pretty good. That's not even one staff member per school, and significantly less than the 140 that was part of the original plan. And since school closure appears to be in the future for this district, chances are, there will be additional layoffs. As a school employee myself, I think it's a terrible position to be in for everyone, but it is the reality of working in schools. The best solution would be for the state to increase funding, but that could be years away.
    With Yale University owning a tremendous amount of land in New Haven and with 3 other colleges/universities in the city and with a number of state and municipal buildings in the city and with New Haven being a city small in land area, it is very challenged for a tax base. In Connecticut, local school districts, which are not county based as in most of the rest of the country, are heavily dependent on local property taxes.

    Due to a state budget crisis, Connecticut has cut back on its share of state funding. This is a serious problem with no solution in sight. There will be a new governor after the November election. Unfortunately one of the candidates is a certifiable whack job, so there will not be any meaningful debate about potential solutions to the fiscal crisis. Hopefully a new governor can show some leadership and move the state out of its current quagmire.

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    With Yale University owning a tremendous amount of land in New Haven and with 3 other colleges/universities in the city and with a number of state and municipal buildings in the city and with New Haven being a city small in land area, it is very challenged for a tax base. In Connecticut, local school districts, which are not county based as in most of the rest of the country, are heavily dependent on local property taxes.

    Due to a state budget crisis, Connecticut has cut back on its share of state funding. This is a serious problem with no solution in sight. There will be a new governor after the November election. Unfortunately one of the candidates is a certifiable whack job, so there will not be any meaningful debate about potential solutions to the fiscal crisis. Hopefully a new governor can show some leadership and move the state out of its current quagmire.

    I'm not sure if it's still an issue but when I lived in Newton, Mass back in the 90s there were always complaints that Harvard and Boston College were buying too much land with their endowments and it was hurting the local governments tax bases. This wasn't really an issue in the cities like Boston and Cambridge but it did hurt the towns like Newton and Watertown. I always felt like their should be a cap to a school's tax exemption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Marsh View Post
    With Yale University owning a tremendous amount of land in New Haven and with 3 other colleges/universities in the city and with a number of state and municipal buildings in the city and with New Haven being a city small in land area, it is very challenged for a tax base. In Connecticut, local school districts, which are not county based as in most of the rest of the country, are heavily dependent on local property taxes.

    Due to a state budget crisis, Connecticut has cut back on its share of state funding. This is a serious problem with no solution in sight. There will be a new governor after the November election. Unfortunately one of the candidates is a certifiable whack job, so there will not be any meaningful debate about potential solutions to the fiscal crisis. Hopefully a new governor can show some leadership and move the state out of its current quagmire.
    This is something I would love to see changed in this state. I don't even know what the logic is for keeping it this way.
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    This is something I would love to see changed in this state. I don't even know what the logic is for keeping it this way.
    There is no logic. Constitutionally, Education is a state responsibility, not the responsibility of towns and cities. Leaving significant amounts of funding up to local property taxes creates great inequities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhyankeefan View Post
    I'm not sure if it's still an issue but when I lived in Newton, Mass back in the 90s there were always complaints that Harvard and Boston College were buying too much land with their endowments and it was hurting the local governments tax bases. This wasn't really an issue in the cities like Boston and Cambridge but it did hurt the towns like Newton and Watertown. I always felt like their should be a cap to a school's tax exemption.
    Also complaints in Manhattan - Columbia uptown, NYU downtown.

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    With Yale University owning a tremendous amount of land in New Haven and with 3 other colleges/universities in the city and with a number of state and municipal buildings in the city and with New Haven being a city small in land area, it is very challenged for a tax base. In Connecticut, local school districts, which are not county based as in most of the rest of the country, are heavily dependent on local property taxes.

    Due to a state budget crisis, Connecticut has cut back on its share of state funding. This is a serious problem with no solution in sight. There will be a new governor after the November election. Unfortunately one of the candidates is a certifiable whack job, so there will not be any meaningful debate about potential solutions to the fiscal crisis. Hopefully a new governor can show some leadership and move the state out of its current quagmire.
    Are you from CT, Bill?
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    Also complaints in Manhattan - Columbia uptown, NYU downtown.
    And . . .

    City College
    Hunter
    Baruch
    John Jay
    Fashion Institute
    Yeshiva
    Cooper Union
    New School
    Pace
    Touro
    Fordham/Lincoln Center
    Marymount Manhattan
    Cornell Medical
    Rockefeller University
    Juilliard
    Manhattan School of Music

    Then there are the hospitals, museums, churches . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Marsh View Post
    And . . .

    City College
    Hunter
    Baruch
    John Jay
    Fashion Institute
    Yeshiva
    Cooper Union
    New School
    Pace
    Touro
    Fordham/Lincoln Center
    Marymount Manhattan
    Cornell Medical
    Rockefeller University
    Juilliard
    Manhattan School of Music

    Then there are the hospitals, museums, churches . . .
    The two I mentioned have raised the biggest fuss because of their aggressive expansions that completely transformed neighborhoods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Marsh View Post
    With Yale University owning a tremendous amount of land in New Haven and with 3 other colleges/universities in the city and with a number of state and municipal buildings in the city and with New Haven being a city small in land area, it is very challenged for a tax base. In Connecticut, local school districts, which are not county based as in most of the rest of the country, are heavily dependent on local property taxes.

    Due to a state budget crisis, Connecticut has cut back on its share of state funding. This is a serious problem with no solution in sight. There will be a new governor after the November election. Unfortunately one of the candidates is a certifiable whack job, so there will not be any meaningful debate about potential solutions to the fiscal crisis. Hopefully a new governor can show some leadership and move the state out of its current quagmire.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tyler Durden View Post
    This is something I would love to see changed in this state. I don't even know what the logic is for keeping it this way.
    Was having this discussion the other day. I the UK, my "property taxes" are the same as someone on the other side of the country. My sized home is the same as in a rich city. The only difference is London (I think). This means an area can't neglect its schools due to low taxes.
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