+ Reply to Thread
Page 4 of 4 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4
Results 76 to 83 of 83
  1. #76
    NYYF Legend

    longtimeyankeefan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2000
    Location
    The eternal state of optimism that the Yankees will win it all

    Re: Sanchez-Holliday-Bird-Judge = New Middle of Lineup?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaBliz View Post
    I think Headley will be a slightly better on-base threat than Ellsbury, but the advantage in OBP is negated by the decrease in baserunning. If Ellsbury gets off to a slow start, but someone like Headley/Refsnyder/Hicks is getting on a lot, I'd be open to a change. Right now, though, we don't have any real #2 options.

    For me, the real question is where to bat Gary. I think Holliday-Sanchez-Bird as 3-4-5 makes sense.
    I don't know that you want to stick that pressure on Sanchez to start the season. I would rather see him start the season in the five or six hole and work his way up.

    But the real problem is if not Sanchez, who? Holiday, Bird, Sanchez and Judge all strike me as more like 5/6 hitters than 3/4 hitters.

    This team drastically needs another bat - I could stand Joey Bats on a cheap one year, but where do you play Holliday then? Put Joey in RF and leave Judge in AAA?

    Come on Cashman - find a way to get LAD to take Ellsbury and his entire contract, a la the Red Sox - PLEASE.

    How about Ellsbury, Castro, Headley, Sabathia & the remainder of ARod's contract to LAD for a prospect? Can't you get it done?
    Forgive me for taking the Contrarian view

  2. #77

    Re: Sanchez-Holliday-Bird-Judge = New Middle of Lineup?

    Quote Originally Posted by longtimeyankeefan View Post
    I don't know that you want to stick that pressure on Sanchez to start the season. I would rather see him start the season in the five or six hole and work his way up.

    But the real problem is if not Sanchez, who? Holiday, Bird, Sanchez and Judge all strike me as more like 5/6 hitters than 3/4 hitters.
    What pressure? Pressure is trying to hit a major league curve ball, or drive in a man in scoring position. It's not your place in the batting order. Sanchez certainly seemed to relish the opportunity to be the big bat in the lineup last year. If the Yankees wanted to protect Sanchez and not subject him to too much pressure too soon, they would have held onto McCann and let the two share catching responsibilities as Girardi and Jorge did in 1998. But they didn't do that. They've made the commitment to Sanchez, so I think you run with it.

    This is a rebuilding season. I'm putting the kids in featured positions and getting them as many PAs as I can, so that means Bird-Sanchez in the 3-4 spots in the lineup, followed by Holliday. Sanchez and Bird are unquestionably the 2 strongest bats in the lineup unless they're major disappointments.

    I think that Judge is the guy you bat down in the lineup until you see what he can do with his second chance. He's the guy I want to see work his way up as he produces.

  3. #78

    Re: Sanchez-Holliday-Bird-Judge = New Middle of Lineup?

    Quote Originally Posted by longtimeyankeefan View Post
    How about Ellsbury, Castro, Headley, Sabathia & the remainder of ARod's contract to LAD for a prospect? Can't you get it done?
    the 1890's socialist Player's League, founded by workers:
    socialistappeal.org/history-theory/us-history/959-the-1890-players-league.html

  4. #79
    NYYF Legend

    longtimeyankeefan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2000
    Location
    The eternal state of optimism that the Yankees will win it all

    Re: Sanchez-Holliday-Bird-Judge = New Middle of Lineup?

    Quote Originally Posted by SatchelPaigeYankee View Post
    Glad you enjoyed my idea of a good trade.

    Now, get it done Cash.
    Forgive me for taking the Contrarian view

  5. #80

    Re: Sanchez-Holliday-Bird-Judge = New Middle of Lineup?

    Bump to top

  6. #81

    Re: Sanchez-Holliday-Bird-Judge = New Middle of Lineup?

    Bump to top

  7. #82

    Re: Sanchez-Holliday-Bird-Judge = New Middle of Lineup?

    Quote Originally Posted by sjb23 View Post
    I like this:

    Gardner
    Headley
    Sanchez
    Holliday
    Bird
    Judge
    Didi
    Castro
    Ellsbury
    I can't bat Judge that high to start the season. He's got a few things to prove first. I think that spring training performance should factor into all this - especially with Bird and Holliday.

  8. #83
    It's a walkoff Mark19's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Alexandria, VA

    Re: Sanchez-Holliday-Bird-Judge = New Middle of Lineup?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Marsh View Post
    I can't bat Judge that high to start the season. He's got a few things to prove first. I think that spring training performance should factor into all this - especially with Bird and Holliday.
    If Joe is smart, he will platoon heavily.

    If Cashman is smart, he'll add some depth and versatility to the roster.

    vs. LHP

    Gardner - LF
    Headley - 3B
    Sanchez - C
    Holliday - DH
    Castro - 2B
    Gregorius - SS
    Austin - 1B
    Judge - RF
    Hicks - CF

    vs. RHP

    Gardner - LF
    Ellsbury - CF
    Sanchez - C
    Bird - 1B
    Holliday - DH
    Gregorius - SS
    Headley - 3B
    Castro - 2B
    Judge - RF

    The obvious weak spots are CF versus LHP and the bottom of the lineup versus RHP

    I think we would all agree that Judge probably has the most to prove among the quartet of young bats. Likewise Headley and Castro are likely to be at-or-below replacement level on both sides of the platoon.

    I know the team is determined to find out what they have but deepening the bench won't prevent them doing this.

    Luis Valbuena gives us a true backup at 1B and 3B and can play 2B in an emergency. He would give us insurance if Bird struggles badly, likewise offers more offensive upside than Torreyes when Headley or Castro needs a day off. Also, given Holliday has missed significant time the next two seasons and is turning 37, we may need some power off the bench / DH.

    I would also endorse bringing Ackley back to camp as he can also provide some depth at 1B and 2B while being a more viable 5th outfielder than Holliday. With Ackley instead of Torreyes, Austin or Castro become your backups at 3B - not ideal but not critical either.

    It is mid-January and neither seems to have attractive employment prospects. What do we have to lose?
    SI: Do you have a secret ambition?
    Igawa: That's secret.


    "They should just practice during the regular season and show up for the playoffs -Ichiro on the Yankees

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

     

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts