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01-11-17 11:18 AM #36526
Re: Election 2016
Softbank will be making investments in the US from this new $100B fund. Trump made a big show about bringing in that investment. Yes the money was probably already there for the fund, but I would say they'll be more aggressive in deploying the capital in a pro-business administration under Trump.
Nobody knows how much will go towards supporting start-ups vis-a-vis acquiring existing established co's, but it's a good sign of economic activity. Basically the sign on the white house lawn right now is "open for business". The Trump haters will continue screaming for 4 years open for his "personal" business, but so far the stock market & financial sector have been betting on big improvements for the entire economy
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01-11-17 11:18 AM #36527
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01-11-17 11:20 AM #36528
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01-11-17 11:21 AM #36529
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Just some FYI stuff.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...en-study-finds
Sweden’s most authoritative foreign policy institute has accused Russia of using fake news, false documents and disinformation as part of a coordinated campaign to influence public opinion and decision-making in the Scandinavian country.Moscow’s main aim was to “preserve the geo-strategic status quo” by minimising Nato’s role in the Baltic region and keeping Sweden out of the international military alliance, the study said.
Following accusations that Russian hackers interfered with the US presidential election and similar concerns expressed in Germany, the authors said their study confirmed a “growing body of research highlighting Russia’s increasing use of active measures as a foreign policy tool towards western states” since 2014.
“We believe it demonstrates an intent to influence decision-making,” Martin Kragh, one of the report’s authors, told Dagens Nyheter newspaper. “That is in itself a reason to try to document and understand the ways in which it is being done.”
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01-11-17 11:22 AM #36530
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01-11-17 11:22 AM #36531
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01-11-17 11:23 AM #36532
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01-11-17 11:24 AM #36533
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He stated they want to repeal and replace the ACA, and it would happen on the same day. That'll be interesting.
He's also still totally all about building the Mexican wall. I can't imagine a scenario where this gets done. I can see it being started and then the funding for it is pulled, and stopped (like one of his condo/hotels in Rosarito, Mexico). They build it in California and Arizona then Mexicans start instagram'ing them hopping over with ladders. Would be brilliant. Can't wait.
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01-11-17 11:25 AM #36534
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Re: Election 2016
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01-11-17 11:26 AM #36535
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01-11-17 11:27 AM #36536
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The only people concerned with Donald Trump's tax returns are reporters?
Aren't reporters, by extension, the media, which of course is short for intermediate, which is to provide information from the powers that be to the people?
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01-11-17 11:27 AM #36537
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01-11-17 11:27 AM #36538
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I don't see how anyone (other than Donald Trump) could look at the election results and see a populist revolt or any sort of a mandate. So, I agree with your premise. But, I have to question your math skills.
Hillary Clinton received 65,844,954 votes, to Trump's 62,979,879. That means she got 4.5% more votes than he did. In the Electoral College, Trump earned 306 votes, compared to Clinton's 232 (I'm looking at earned votes rather than actual votes, discounting faithless Electors). That means he got 31.9% more EC votes than she did (33.9% if you look at the actuals). Barely won the EC? His EC margin was significantly greater than her popular vote margin. In reality, he had a comfortable EC win, compared to her razor-thin popular vote plurality.
Just sayin'.
"But what people tend to forget...is that being a Yankee is as much about character as it is about performance; as much about who you are as what you do."
- President Barack Obama
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01-11-17 11:29 AM #36539
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01-11-17 11:36 AM #36540
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College was costing too much, and a lot of people couldn't afford to send their kids. So, the government stepped in and created Stafford Loans, so everyone could go. With more money available to pay for college, guess what happened to college costs? They skyrocketed.
Housing was costing too much, and a lot of people couldn't afford to buy a home. So, the government stepped in and relaxed restrictions on who could qualify for mortgages. With more money available to buy houses, guess what happened to home values? They skyrocketed.
Someone explain to me again how government intervention is the solution to healthcare costs.
"But what people tend to forget...is that being a Yankee is as much about character as it is about performance; as much about who you are as what you do."
- President Barack Obama
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01-11-17 11:40 AM #36541
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One wins states.
One doesn't rely on New York, California, and Illinois to override the heartland.
I know where you're going. Trump's margin in several of the states he carried was very thin. But, I still can't justify 31.9% more votes in the EC as barely winning the EC.
"But what people tend to forget...is that being a Yankee is as much about character as it is about performance; as much about who you are as what you do."
- President Barack Obama
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01-11-17 11:44 AM #36542
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Got it 2.8 Million americans is razor thing.
74 is sweeping mandate.
Yes he won the EC easy.
But to put it in perspective in 2016 Clinton beat Trump in the popular vote by nearly the same margin that Bush beat Kerry in the popular vote in 2004. And despite a nearly 6M swing in votes (Bush +~3M to Trump -~3M) in that election Bush won the EC by "only" 45 EVs.
The EC is an antiquated joke that should be amended out of the constitution as soon as possible.Baseball is life;
the rest is just details.
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01-11-17 11:44 AM #36543
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01-11-17 11:45 AM #36544
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Well, this is a different conversation. I'm not sure why the heartland gets to override the rest of the country.
You don't have to. A fact remains a fact regardless of your take on it. Yes, Trump won the EC. No, that total in and of itself does not suggest a huge margin of victory because it's not as though EC votes are cast independent of each other. You win a state, you get the whole bucket even if you win it by one vote.
None of this denies he's the rightful winner of the election under current rules. But he won the EC by a squeaker, lost the pop. vote, and there ain't no way 'round that.
No movement. No populist uprising.
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01-11-17 11:45 AM #36545
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01-11-17 11:48 AM #36546
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I'd love for him to release tax returns.
I am not a reporter.
I'm convinced they will never be released since he's not legally required to do so.
Would love to see a law past that anyone running for president is required to release the last 10 year's tax returns but probably not going to happen.Baseball is life;
the rest is just details.
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01-11-17 11:48 AM #36547
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I doubt there is a coherent rationale, but has anyone ever heard any rationale about why Mexico will send the US tens of billions of dollars for our own infrastructure project? Does it just boil down to Trump holding an unfavorable trade deal over their heads? (some form of blackmail/abusive negotiation)
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01-11-17 11:51 AM #36548
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01-11-17 11:52 AM #36549
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01-11-17 11:52 AM #36550
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He won the election 1-0, by an infinite percentage. That doesn't say anything about the actual margin and how close he was to losing - the Electoral College argument is similar.
If he won 306-232 but with large margins in the states that went for him, I'd agree with you.
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