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  1. #13426

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    This team is pretty poopy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freebubba View Post
    Not trying to be argumentative as I completely agree with your point, but I am curious about this - how many outs do you think the monster turns into base hits? I think it is probably overestimated by many.
    I'm sure there are some analytics on that somewhere. Just by my eye I'll say it obviously does turns catchable pop flyballs into hits off the wall but conversely the LFer should play a bit shallower than normal so I'm guessing as a result a number of dunkers that would fall in at other parks are caught for outs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson'sCornrows View Post
    lolwut? 40 home runs at Fenway? Dude averages like 20 ding dongs at Kaufman. How is supposed to hit 40 at Fenway? Could see his batting average going up if he clangs a lot of doubles and singles off the monster, but no, he isn't going to double his average HR total by poking a bunch of popups over the monster. The monster takes away more home runs than it gives.

    I heard we re-signed Moreland a couple days ago. I'm not in baseball mode and I haven't bothered confirming yet, but Hosmer would have only been a marginal upgrade over Moreland for a great deal more money.

    EDIT: Not really excited we re-signed Moreland, but prefer him to a Hosmer overpay.
    Marginal upgrade? Hosmer is a signicantly better player
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  4. #13429

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    Red Sox will still be a legit threat for the AL East with that rotation. I just dont think it works in October. They seem to fall apart in the postseason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BabyBombers View Post
    Red Sox will still be a legit threat for the AL East with that rotation. I just dont think it works in October. They seem to fall apart in the postseason.
    Take a look at Sale's career splits. He is simply not the same pitcher from mid-August on. He is still pretty damn good, mind you, but not the dominating menace he is for the first 4.5 months of the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freebubba View Post
    Take a look at Sale's career splits. He is simply not the same pitcher from mid-August on. He is still pretty damn good, mind you, but not the dominating menace he is for the first 4.5 months of the season.
    Yup. And Price and Porcello are notorious playoff failures. But they still can pitch well enough in the reg season to win the AL East. Still a threat.

    Maybe they should start Sale in May or June if its an endurance thing.
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  7. #13432

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    If I were the Sox, I would phantom DL Sale midseason in the hopes that he won't struggle towards the end of the year and the playoffs. I have to think that he's just tiring toward the end of the season. Of course, Sale is a big competitor and would most likely fight such a DL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by albo4lyfe View Post
    If I were the Sox, I would phantom DL Sale midseason in the hopes that he won't struggle towards the end of the year and the playoffs. I have to think that he's just tiring toward the end of the season. Of course, Sale is a big competitor and would most likely fight such a DL.
    If they DL him, they might not make the playoffs.
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    http://www.weei.com/blogs/john-tomas...-other-players

    How is nobody talking about this on here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yanksfanintoronto View Post
    http://www.weei.com/blogs/john-tomas...-other-players

    How is nobody talking about this on here

    I donít see how getting Workman for under $1M is news.


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  11. #13436

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    Quote Originally Posted by CalYankeeFan View Post
    I donít see how getting Workman for under $1M is news.


    They're paying him less than we are paying Romine.

    As far as Betts, it's his first time through arbitration, I'd put my money on the Sox winning, if it goes to arbitration. 10.5 vs 7.5.

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    Betts going to an arbitration hearing is not news. Either the Sox win or Betts wins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donnybaseball72 View Post
    Betts going to an arbitration hearing is not news. Either the Sox win or Betts wins.
    So then donít waste your time commenting. I look forward to Mookiesí feelings being hurt. Going into arbitration with your star player is never good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yanksfanintoronto View Post
    So then donít waste your time commenting. I look forward to Mookiesí feelings being hurt. Going into arbitration with your star player is never good.
    Sorry bud, I will keep commenting. Were Jeter and Bernie's feelings hurt when they went to an arbitration hearing? They both signed big extension. Get over yourself. Hearings happen often.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donnybaseball72 View Post
    Sorry bud, I will keep commenting. Were Jeter and Bernie's feelings hurt when they went to an arbitration hearing? They both signed big extension. Get over yourself. Hearings happen often.
    Sure...keep commenting on something you donít consider news

    As a Yankees fan , I hope this leaves Mookie with some ill will towards the Sox.

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    Betts wins his hearing will get $10.5M
    Baseball is life;
    the rest is just details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Tripper View Post
    Betts wins his hearing will get $10.5M
    A bargain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Portbb View Post
    A bargain.
    If the Red Sox thought so they wouldn't have argued for him to get $7.5M

    But yeah I think there are 30 teams in MLB who gladly sign Mookie Betts to a 1 year $10.5M deal.
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    the rest is just details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Tripper View Post
    If the Red Sox thought so they wouldn't have argued for him to get $7.5M

    But yeah I think there are 30 teams in MLB who gladly sign Mookie Betts to a 1 year $10.5M deal.
    Indeed. And they get him for several more years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fightingirish595 View Post
    Marginal upgrade? Hosmer is a signicantly better player
    I guess, if you go strictly by bWAR, but you're talking about an 11 point upgrade in career OPS+ and significant defensive downgrade. fWAR has him worth ~0.78 more wins per season. Overall, I really don't feel like he would have represented a significant upgrade, certainly not enough to warrant the difference between what we're paying for Moreland and what SD shelled out for Hosmer.

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    If they DL him, they might not make the playoffs.
    If the bullpen is as good as it was last year, I'm very much in favor of putting him on a ~95 pitch count and skipping him a couple times in July/August when he could use some rest. He was routinely allowed to throw 110+ last year (and for much of his career before this), and I think there's a chance that not rolling him back out for the 7th or 8th when he has already pitched a brilliant 6 or 7 might give us a decent shot of having an effective Sale into September and maybe even October.

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    With the Sox signing of J.D. Martinez, Hanley Ramirez says, "Now we're ready to step on everybody's neck."

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/r...x3I/story.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongtimeNYYFan View Post
    With the Sox signing of J.D. Martinez, Hanley Ramirez says, "Now we're ready to step on everybody's neck."

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/r...x3I/story.html
    meh....
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  23. #13448

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson'sCornrows View Post
    I guess, if you go strictly by bWAR, but you're talking about an 11 point upgrade in career OPS+ and significant defensive downgrade. fWAR has him worth ~0.78 more wins per season. Overall, I really don't feel like he would have represented a significant upgrade, certainly not enough to warrant the difference between what we're paying for Moreland and what SD shelled out for Hosmer.



    If the bullpen is as good as it was last year, I'm very much in favor of putting him on a ~95 pitch count and skipping him a couple times in July/August when he could use some rest. He was routinely allowed to throw 110+ last year (and for much of his career before this), and I think there's a chance that not rolling him back out for the 7th or 8th when he has already pitched a brilliant 6 or 7 might give us a decent shot of having an effective Sale into September and maybe even October.
    Looking back at that, for the Red Sox needed, maybe hosmer wasnít the upgrade they needed. Heís not going to hit 35-40 homeruns. I still think it wouldíve been a great pickup for them. And despite all the war stuff that I donít really pay attention to, I think hosmer is a much better player than Moreland
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    Quote Originally Posted by LongtimeNYYFan View Post
    With the Sox signing of J.D. Martinez, Hanley Ramirez says, "Now we're ready to step on everybody's neck."

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/r...x3I/story.html
    Unfortunately, this will most likely be Hanley's last season in Boston.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongtimeNYYFan View Post
    With the Sox signing of J.D. Martinez, Hanley Ramirez says, "Now we're ready to step on everybody's neck."

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/r...x3I/story.html
    Mighty big talk from a 95 OPS+ hitter without a defensive position he's good at.

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