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    The falling apart thread...

    At least last year we could blame the lack of conditioning during Spring Training...but this year???

    We might have an entire starting 9 on the DL soon....

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    Re: The falling apart thread...

    Signing Posada to 4 years is basically the mistake the Red Sox made with Varitek.

    A-rod was just bad luck.

    Hughes may or may not have a real injury.

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    Re: The falling apart thread...

    kinda pointless

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    Re: The falling apart thread...

    This could easily become a megathread.
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    Re: The falling apart thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by azzurribaggio
    At least last year we could blame the lack of conditioning during Spring Training...but this year???

    We might have an entire starting 9 on the DL soon....
    Injuries aren't a good thing to happen with anyone but if this season became a completely failure thanks to them, i hope at least the people in control of the Yankees will learn that a team isn't made only of good/great players, a team to win world series needs good chemistry and the Yankees so far this season is a mirror image of the last years Yankees Playoff teams.

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    Re: The falling apart thread...

    Like the book by Chinua Achebe? Or the Nine Inch Nails album?

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    Re: The falling apart thread...

    On the up side......we don`t have to blame Torre for all our failures.

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    Re: The falling apart thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by JeterRodriguezSheff
    Signing Posada to 4 years is basically the mistake the Red Sox made with Varitek.

    A-rod was just bad luck.

    Hughes may or may not have a real injury.
    The Sox signed Varitek to a 4 year, $40 million dollar contract at age 32 in the 2004 offseason.

    The Yankees signed Posada to a $52.4 million, four year deal at age 36, in the 2007/08 offseason.

    Variteks contract ends when Posada's begins (age wise). It's not even close to the same thing.

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    Re: The falling apart thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by TheShynessClinic
    The Sox signed Varitek to a 4 year, $40 million dollar contract at age 32 in the 2004 offseason.

    The Yankees signed Posada to a $52.4 million, four year deal at age 36, in the 2007/08 offseason.

    Variteks contract ends when Posada's begins (age wise). It's not even close to the same thing.
    Except Posada only started catching full-time in his late 20s. He has less mileage and provides enough offensive value to be a 1B/DH when he starts to get creaky.
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    Re: The falling apart thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by montrealer
    On the up side......we don`t have to blame Torre for all our failures.
    Oh geezz....he'd be getting hammered if he were here. He still gets hammered by fans when he's not here.

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    Re: The falling apart thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by TheShynessClinic
    The Sox signed Varitek to a 4 year, $40 million dollar contract at age 32 in the 2004 offseason.

    The Yankees signed Posada to a $52.4 million, four year deal at age 36, in the 2007/08 offseason.

    Variteks contract ends when Posada's begins (age wise). It's not even close to the same thing.
    I agree, I think if teh Red Sox could do it all over again they would have signed Varitek to a 5 year deal after the 2004 season. He isn't the same offensive player he was in 2003-2004 but he is still a real good defensive catcher and with the lack of catchers in the pipeline and not many in the free agent market. the mistake the Sox made was NOT giving Varitek a 5 year deal back then, now after this season they will be a tough position, and wit Boras as his agent it will be that much harder.
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    Re: The falling apart thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark19
    Except Posada only started catching full-time in his late 20s. He has less mileage and provides enough offensive value to be a 1B/DH when he starts to get creaky.
    That doesn't change anything. Varitek was signed when he was 32. Posada 36. There is absolutely zero in common between the two, aside from the fact that they are both catchers.

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    Re: The falling apart thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by TheShynessClinic
    The Sox signed Varitek to a 4 year, $40 million dollar contract at age 32 in the 2004 offseason.

    The Yankees signed Posada to a $52.4 million, four year deal at age 36, in the 2007/08 offseason.

    Variteks contract ends when Posada's begins (age wise). It's not even close to the same thing.
    Except Posada started to catch a lot later than varitek. So yea it pretty much is the same thing.

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    Re: The falling apart thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by TheShynessClinic
    That doesn't change anything. Varitek was signed when he was 32. Posada 36. There is absolutely zero in common between the two, aside from the fact that they are both catchers.
    Yes there is, players play well into their late 30's and early 40's these days. The main thing here is being a catcher takes a big toll on the body. Posada started to catch later on than Varitek and has much less toll on his body than Varitek will at age 36.

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    Re: The falling apart thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by TheShynessClinic
    That doesn't change anything. Varitek was signed when he was 32. Posada 36. There is absolutely zero in common between the two, aside from the fact that they are both catchers.
    Posada actually has talent, unlike Varitek.

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    Re: The falling apart thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by youmaddon
    Posada actually has talent, unlike Varitek.
    That C on his chest gives him a few in the intangibles department though

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    Re: The falling apart thread...

    Posada's injury could of happened at any age and he's still one of the best offensive catchers in the league. I really don't see too many different ways we could of gone there, considering how our catching prospects were at the time. It's going to work out that his contract ends just as we have guys like Romine and JESUS ready to play at the MLB level. Maybe we could of signed him for less but it's not exactly like we're working with a salary cap.

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    Re: The falling apart thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by JeterRodriguezSheff
    Signing Posada to 4 years is basically the mistake the Red Sox made with Varitek.

    A-rod was just bad luck.

    Hughes may or may not have a real injury.
    Are you kidding? Posada has been twice as good as Varitek for the last couple of seasons. Was it a mistake to give the guy a gour year contract three years ago? Yes. But it's the same pig-headed mistake The Yankees always make when it comes to their players. They don't offer extensions when it makes sense and they have the upper hand; they wait too long; let things get acrimonious; and then overpay - or lose the player - a la Andy Pettitte in 2003.

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    Re: The falling apart thread...

    Considering how 2009 turned out, even if we could go back in time I'd still give Posada that contract.

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    Re: The falling apart thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by DaBliz
    Posada's injury could of happened at any age and he's still one of the best offensive catchers in the league. I really don't see too many different ways we could of gone there, considering how our catching prospects were at the time. It's going to work out that his contract ends just as we have guys like Romine and JESUS ready to play at the MLB level. Maybe we could of signed him for less but it's not exactly like we're working with a salary cap.
    We might need him for 2012 to transition the new guys in. I don't know if he would want to stay on as a part time catcher though.
    Mariano Rivera was so great he was able to close a Denny's.

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    Re: The falling apart thread...

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    Re: The falling apart thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by youmaddon
    Posada actually has talent, unlike Varitek.
    It seems odd to bump a two-year-old thread to say this...

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    Re: The falling apart thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by pleasepassthesoup
    It seems odd to bump a two-year-old thread to say this...
    ... in reply to a poster who was RO'd a long time ago, no less.

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