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daishan35
05-31-04, 02:23 PM
I have a question for everyone. How is it possible that a guy like Mora, who couldnt hit a damn thing for his entire career all of a sudden turn things around and hit .383 so far this year? and last year too he was killing the ball for most of the season until a late season slump. so my question is really how players who really were terrible (not just mora--all players) become this good--aspecially when they are past what most people refer to as their "prime baseball years". And to set the record straight, this isnt a thread about suspected steroid use. I am just curious is all. it has always bothered me and I wanted some input on the subject. sorry, slow day.

:smokin:

here are his career stats:

1999 NYM 66 31 6 5 0 0 0 1 4 7 2 1 .161 .278 .161 .439
2000 Bal 53 199 25 58 9 3 2 17 17 32 5 8 .291 .359 .397 .756
2000 NYM 79 215 35 56 13 2 6 30 18 48 7 3 .260 .317 .423 .740
2000 -- 132 414 60 114 22 5 8 47 35 80 12 11 .275 .337 .411 .748
2001 Bal 128 436 49 109 28 0 7 48 41 91 11 4 .250 .329 .362 .691
2002 Bal 149 557 86 130 30 4 19 64 70 108 16 10 .233 .338 .404 .742
2003 Bal 96 344 68 109 17 1 15 48 49 71 6 3 .317 .418 .503 .921
2004 Bal 45 179 45 69 14 0 9 32 26 33 7 2 .385 .471 .615 1.086
Total -- 616 1961 314 536 111 10 58 240 225 390 54 31 .273

Dave in MD
05-31-04, 02:26 PM
Some players just find it. He's a different player since he went to the Orioles. But I can't say its a fluke anymore as he's done it for two straight years.

pacewon
05-31-04, 02:34 PM
I've heard some people credit the birth of his quintuplets to taking a lot off his mind and allowing him to hit his stride. Family issues really can hurt a player, look at Andy Pettitte a few years ago.

Rich
05-31-04, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by pacewon
I've heard some people credit the birth of his quintuplets to taking a lot off his mind and allowing him to hit his stride. Family issues really can hurt a player, look at Andy Pettitte a few years ago.

Or the effect it's having on Contreras now?

pacewon
05-31-04, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by Rich


Or the effect it's having on Contreras now?

Indeed.

patrick.o
05-31-04, 04:01 PM
In hindsight you can see that even his 2002 was a big step in the right direction. He may have only hit .233 but his OBP was .338 - over 100 points higher than his average - and 41% of his hits went for extra bases. It seems that late in his progression as a hitter he finally honed a sharp eye for the strike zone and that's been the key that's unlocked his offensive ability.

And he's currently leading my fantasy team in points! :gulp:

Yanks21
05-31-04, 05:03 PM
He worked extremely hard and turned himself into a hell of a ballplayer...

RedGlare
05-31-04, 05:07 PM
I guess the same way a player like Bill Mueller can hit .326 :dunno:

jojos_2
05-31-04, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by Dave in MD
Some players just find it. He's a different player since he went to the Orioles. But I can't say its a fluke anymore as he's done it for two straight years.

Ditto.

It boggles the mind, but like Dave said, some players just find it.

yecul2
05-31-04, 05:32 PM
Wasn't he hitting ~.350 last year and then got hurt. His numbers dropped after returning.

Very, very impressive... and surprising.

Bern Baby Be
05-31-04, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by pacewon
I've heard some people credit the birth of his quintuplets to taking a lot off his mind and allowing him to hit his stride. Family issues really can hurt a player, look at Andy Pettitte a few years ago.

Melvin's got all the kids to support, he's got to hit! :lol:

nahzo
05-31-04, 06:20 PM
I was thinking the same thing, only more on the lines as he's finally having fun out there. Or at least he's forced to, since when he goes home he's got babies pooping all over the place. :lol:

NJASDJDH
05-31-04, 08:59 PM
So I was checking out Melvin Mora's stats because of this thread, and I was pretty impressed. Then, I looked at his defensive stats, right now, he is playing an historically horrendous 3B, does anyone else have thoughts on this?

pacewon
05-31-04, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by NJASDJDH
So I was checking out Melvin Mora's stats because of this thread, and I was pretty impressed. Then, I looked at his defensive stats, right now, he is playing an historically horrendous 3B, does anyone else have thoughts on this?

The O's are trying to get him into the outfield somehow, I believe.

-tz
05-31-04, 10:16 PM
He's never played 3B regularly before ... in fact, he only had seven games there since his ML debut in '99; he's played most of his games in the outfield or at SS. Not every player is enough of an athlete to switch positions as gracefully as A-Rod has managed it.

Dave in MD
05-31-04, 10:43 PM
Originally posted by pacewon


The O's are trying to get him into the outfield somehow, I believe.

I don't see any room there. If Hairston is going to DH, they are better off using Mora as the DH.

Bern Baby Be
06-01-04, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by nahzo
I was thinking the same thing, only more on the lines as he's finally having fun out there. Or at least he's forced to, since when he goes home he's got babies pooping all over the place. :lol:

I looked up his bio on MLB.Com. It says the quints, three girls and two boys, will turn 3 years old this summer. Plus, he has an older daughter.

CommerceComet
06-01-04, 01:02 PM
Let's not forget that it is still early in the season. Mora has improved but he won't be hitting .380 by the end of the season. He's not Rod Carew, Tony Gwynn, or George Brett.

On a related note, I saw something the other day that surprised me. Ty Cobb once was hitting .521 in July. That is a long time to be that hot. He cooled off to end up hitting around .410 for the season.