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pacewon
09-03-01, 11:54 PM
I just bought a baseball video game and decided to create the 1927 Murderer's Row Yankee team. The problem is I don't know a damn thing about their pitchers (I know their names, height, weight, etc.) but I don't know what kind of pitchers they were. I'm trying to create Waite Hoyt right now. Does anyone know if he was a power or finesse pitcher or any of the pitches he threw? What about for any of the other pitchers?

Any information you could provide me with would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Slippery Elm
09-04-01, 03:48 AM
http://www.angelfire.com/pa/1927/profiles2.html

The Yankees acquired Hoyt from the Red Sox in an eight player trade prior to the 1921 campaign. He pitched three complete games without allowing an earned run in the 1921 World Series. Going into his tenth season, "Schoolboy" was the ace of the pitching staff. He had a 110-85 career record, along with a 3.56 ERA. This would be his breakthrough year. Hoyt was Huggins' choice for Opening Day vs. Philadelphia, and in 1927 he was the best pitcher in the American League. For the first time in his career he would win 20 games. Hoyt tied for the league lead in wins with 22, led with a .759 winning percentage, was second in the league with a 2.64 ERA, was third with 23 complete games, and fourth with 256 innings pitched. He led the Yankees in all of those categories but ERA. He pitched a complete game in 71% of his starts, leading the team. Hoyt was also the only Yankee hurler to face over 1,000 batters in 1927. As reliable as he was, Hoyt appeared at least once every six games; rested for 11 games from June 25th through July 4th; then appeared at least once every five games for the Yankees the rest of the season (he developed a sore elbow June 25th in a 4-2 loss to Philadelphia which would limit him to two batters, both singles, in his next start, July 5th against Washington; the only batters he would face in a 17 game span). Hoyt gave up only three hits in a 5-0 shut out over Washington on May 27th. Hoyt was 5-1 with a 1.56 ERA in May, his best month. He was consistent, posting an 11-3 record on the road, and an 11-4 record at Yankee Stadium. He and Ruether tied for the team lead with three shut outs each, finishing one behind the league leader. Of his seven losses, five were by one run. He did not have a losing record against any team, and his 5-0 record (with a 2.00 ERA) against St. Louis tied him with Shocker for best record against an opponent on the staff. Hoyt made four relief appearances during the season, finishing all four and picking up his only save in the last game, a 4-3 win over Washington. Hoyt had career bests in ERA and CG. In allowing nine of his team high 10 HR to be hit at Yankee Stadium, each AL team hit at least one off of him there. Offensively, he scored 10 runs, leading the staff. He hit a triple on July 31st in his 5-0 shut out over Cleveland. He beat Pittsburgh 5-4 in Game 1 of the 1927 World Series. As early as September 1927, Hoyt had his own program on NBC radio.

http://www.foertmeyer.com/examples/images/whoyt.jpg


Fastballs and curves, as far as I recall.

pacewon
09-04-01, 06:05 PM
Originally posted by Slippery Elm
Fastballs and curves, as far as I recall.

Thanks! No changeup or anything?

seahorse
09-04-01, 06:15 PM
He sure looks like a schoolboy. Thanks Slippery. :cool:

Slippery Elm
09-04-01, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by pacewon


Thanks! No changeup or anything?

As far as I know, he had the usual repetoire inc. changeups; not an overwhelming power pitcher, but a good fastball and good control. No tricks.

He was a superstar pitcher for Erasmus Hall High School in Brooklyn, decades before it became one of the worst dumps in the public system.

He looks older here broadcasting Reds games which he did from 1942-1965.
He did Brooklyn games in 1940 amd 1941. He was so good people used to hope for rain delays to hear his classic stories about the Twenties and the Yankees. Many are on tape in the Miley Collection, which perhaps you can find somewhere.

http://www.homestead.com/ClassicRadio/files/Hoyt.jpg

http://www.findagrave.com/photos/101c/222/hoytwaitebio.jpg

http://www.findagrave.com/photos/101c/222/hoytwaite.jpg

lbyankychk
09-22-01, 01:30 AM
I know some about Hoyt, I have a lot of newspaper articles as he is a Cincinnatian. He's buried by Miller Huggins.

Slippery Elm
09-22-01, 06:57 PM
http://www.findagrave.com/photos/101c/222/hugginsmiller2.jpg

Yes, they are in the same cemetery.