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ymike673
06-13-17, 08:54 AM
A lot of moves coming up in the next few weeks. Expansion draft. What happens with Tavares?

Donnybaseball72
06-13-17, 10:02 AM
The Isles have one of the best expansion lists for Vegas to choose from. They have no choice but to protect 4 dmen, 4 forwards, 1 goalies instead of 3 dmen, 7 forwards and a goalie which most teams are doing. This means that one the protected Dmen will be Boychuck (NMC), Leddy, Hamonic and one of Pulock or deHaan. Most experts think it will be Pulock protected in spite of playing 1 NHL game last season. de Haan is going into this walk year which might turn Vegas off. It could be worth the gamble.

The protected forwards will JT, Ladd, Lee and 1 of Nelson or Strome.

It sucks to lose any of these guys unless it's Hickey.

ymike673
06-13-17, 10:13 AM
The Isles have one of the best expansion lists for Vegas to choose from. They have no choice but to protect 4 dmen, 4 forwards, 1 goalies instead of 3 dmen, 7 forwards and a goalie which most teams are doing. This means that one the protected Dmen will be Boychuck (NMC), Leddy, Hamonic and one of Pulock or deHaan. Most experts think it will be Pulock protected in spite of playing 1 NHL game last season. de Haan is going into this walk year which might turn Vegas off. It could be worth the gamble.

The protected forwards will JT, Ladd, Lee and 1 of Nelson or Strome.

It sucks to lose any of these guys unless it's Hickey.

Since I think Pulock will be good if ever given a real shot would not mind losing Dahaan. I assume Berube will be left unprotected. Would not mind losing him either.

ymike673
06-13-17, 10:14 AM
Ha-ha, guess no chance we could lose Snow in the expansion draft.

Donnybaseball72
06-13-17, 03:09 PM
Not that it matters but Berube is an UFA. I mind losing Da Haan. He finished the season arguably as the 2nd best defenseman on the Islanders.

Donnybaseball72
06-19-17, 07:49 AM
5 defensemen protected (Leddy. Boychuck, Hamonic, Pelech, Pulock). A 1st round pick is being traded to Vegas to lay off any unprotected forwards (Nelson, Strome, Bailey, Zeeker)

So they will probably take da Haan or Halak or Hickey.

Garth must really like Pelech because fans are destroying him on message boards. I'm thinking that there isn't room under the cap to resign da Haan and it will suck to lose him after the season he had but someone has to go and they are deep at Defense. But losing the 1st round pick is a head scratcher.

ymike673
06-19-17, 01:18 PM
5 defensemen protected (Leddy. Boychuck, Hamonic, Pelech, Pulock). A 1st round pick is being traded to Vegas to lay off any unprotected forwards (Nelson, Strome, Bailey, Zeeker)

So they will probably take da Haan or Halak or Hickey.

Garth must really like Pelech because fans are destroying him on message boards. I'm thinking that there isn't room under the cap to resign da Haan and it will suck to lose him after the season he had but someone has to go and they are deep at Defense. But losing the 1st round pick is a head scratcher.

They can only lose one player so why give up a first round pick? Head scratcher but it is Garth still running things.

philleotardo
06-19-17, 09:34 PM
Staple is suggesting something along the lines of Isles sending 1st rounder and Grabovski's dead weight to Vegas, Vegas selects Kulemin. Cap space freed up allows pursuit of Eberle, Duchene or Galchenyuk (w/ Hamonic heading out).

Donnybaseball72
06-20-17, 09:05 AM
Staple is suggesting something along the lines of Isles sending 1st rounder and Grabovski's dead weight to Vegas, Vegas selects Kulemin. Cap space freed up allows pursuit of Eberle, Duchene or Galchenyuk (w/ Hamonic heading out).

If this happens then Garth is smarter than we think. 15th overall pick in a weak draft to gain $9.1 million in cap space while not losing 1 core player is pretty sweet. I like Kulemin but he is a .25 ppg player making $4 million a year. However it does make the Seidenberg resign look like overkill.

ymike673
06-20-17, 01:21 PM
If this happens then Garth is smarter than we think. 15th overall pick in a weak draft to gain $9.1 million in cap space while not losing 1 core player is pretty sweet. I like Kulemin but he is a .25 ppg player making $4 million a year. However it does make the Seidenberg resign look like overkill.

That would be pretty smart. Let's see if that actually happens. I notice Tavares has been pretty quiet lately.

philleotardo
06-21-17, 08:16 PM
Kulemin not involved

Arthur Staple‏Verified account @StapeNewsday


#Isles send their 1st rounder this season, 2019 second-rounder, Mikhail Grabovski and D Jake Bischoff to have Vegas select G J-F Berube

ymike673
06-22-17, 10:33 AM
I think we can all agree losing Berube not a bad thing.

Donnybaseball72
06-22-17, 10:58 AM
I think we can all agree losing Berube not a bad thing.

I am pleased it was him but I don't get it. Berube is an UFA. With two goalies ahead of him on the depth chart he could just bolt for Europe or sign with another team. Now I don't expect any team to hand him anything more than a 2 -way deal with little chance of making the NHL squad but the fact that he can entertain offers on 7/1 makes the pick from Vegas odd.

ymike673
06-22-17, 12:20 PM
I am pleased it was him but I don't get it. Berube is an UFA. With two goalies ahead of him on the depth chart he could just bolt for Europe or sign with another team. Now I don't expect any team to hand him anything more than a 2 -way deal with little chance of making the NHL squad but the fact that he can entertain offers on 7/1 makes the pick from Vegas odd.

Maybe Vegas liked what the Islanders offered so much that taking Berube was ok.

ymike673
06-22-17, 12:21 PM
Islanders trade Ryan Strome to the Oilers for Jordan Eberle.

Donnybaseball72
06-22-17, 01:05 PM
Islanders trade Ryan Strome to the Oilers for Jordan Eberle.

Wow. Party on Garth!

ymike673
06-24-17, 11:38 AM
So Garth trades Hamonic away for picks in the next two drafts. He could have got Taylor Hall for Hamonic before last season. So I can go back to disliking Snow. The worst GM in NY.

HelloNewman
06-25-17, 11:36 AM
The worst GM in NY.Mike Maccagnan?

ymike673
06-25-17, 05:23 PM
Mike Maccagnan?

He has not been the Jets GM for 12 years like Snow has been with the Isles.

CanoForPresident
06-25-17, 06:20 PM
He has not been the Jets GM for 12 years like Snow has been with the Isles.

................ its been THAT long?!?


FWIW, I think Snow did really well on the Hamonic trade. You can point to Hall and say "hey we could have had that guy!" but he really maximized his value on a guy who not only had a rough season, but hasn't been very good for a while now.

philleotardo
06-25-17, 06:23 PM
................ its been THAT long?!?


FWIW, I think Snow did really well on the Hamonic trade. You can point to Hall and say "hey we could have had that guy!" but he really maximized his value on a guy who not only had a rough season, but hasn't been very good for a while now.

And can never stay healthy. I don't want Hamonic to go, but it's more emotional than rational. And it should not only give Pulock a longer look, but maybe give Toews a shot at some point.

Donnybaseball72
06-25-17, 07:20 PM
Sorry Mike but Snow had a very good week. Losing only a 3rd goalie and a forward who has reoccuring concussions and a giant cap hit in the expansion draft, picking up Eberle and then much needed draft picks for Hamonic who had a bad year are all good moves. Also not giving up Barzel for Duchene is a wise move as well.

ymike673
06-25-17, 09:55 PM
Sorry Mike but Snow had a very good week. Losing only a 3rd goalie and a forward who has reoccuring concussions and a giant cap hit in the expansion draft, picking up Eberle and then much needed draft picks for Hamonic who had a bad year are all good moves. Also not giving up Barzel for Duchene is a wise move as well.


I liked what he did with the draft and the Eberle trade. I was not against trading Hamonic. Was just hoping he would get a player that could help us next season in the deal. Snow has had plenty of draft picks over the years and still the Isles have one playoff round win to show for his 12+ years as GM.

HelloNewman
07-06-17, 05:32 PM
He has not been the Jets GM for 12 years like Snow has been with the Isles.That's true but Mccagnan has been able to do a breathtaking amount of damage in just a few short years. His predecessor Idzik was notoriously awful on personnel but his one redeeming feature was that he lowered the payroll and left his successor swimming in cap space. Mccagnan has already managed to blow through that cap space and yet still amass a roster that's probably even less talented than the one Idzik left behind. That's impressive.

ymike673
07-07-17, 11:24 AM
That's true but Mccagnan has been able to do a breathtaking amount of damage in just a few short years. His predecessor Idzik was notoriously awful on personnel but his one redeeming feature was that he lowered the payroll and left his successor swimming in cap space. Mccagnan has already managed to blow through that cap space and yet still amass a roster that's probably even less talented than the one Idzik left behind. That's impressive.

Everything you say is true. But the difference is McCagnan will probably be replaced if no results in the next few seasons. Can we say the same about Snow? He has been here 12 years with one playoff round victory to show for it.

Donnybaseball72
10-02-17, 12:58 PM
Getting excited for the season. 6-0-2 preseason looks good on paper but they need to continue this progress early into the season. With experienced goaltending and exciting young players this season should be fun to watch.

Best case: Belmont site awarded to Ledecky and Malkin, JT is happy and resigns for 8 years while Barzal and Ho-Sang fight each other for the Calder as the Isles sneak into the top 3 in the Metro division.

Worst case: Belmont is awarded to a flippen soccer team, JT is pissed and decides to explore free agency, Halak turns into a pumpkin and the defense implodes.

ymike673
10-03-17, 09:54 AM
Getting excited for the season. 6-0-2 preseason looks good on paper but they need to continue this progress early into the season. With experienced goaltending and exciting young players this season should be fun to watch.

Best case: Belmont site awarded to Ledecky and Malkin, JT is happy and resigns for 8 years while Barzal and Ho-Sang fight each other for the Calder as the Isles sneak into the top 3 in the Metro division.

Worst case: Belmont is awarded to a flippen soccer team, JT is pissed and decides to explore free agency, Halak turns into a pumpkin and the defense implodes.

Costco has also put in a bid for the property.

philleotardo
10-06-17, 07:34 PM
I was hoping for good news away from the Yankees. Blech.

Donnybaseball72
10-07-17, 07:57 AM
Seidenberg has no business being on the ice. He was god awful. The 2nd goal was all on his poor passing. They better win tonight at home.

ymike673
10-07-17, 10:10 AM
Well things have to be better tonight. Columbus has become a mine field for the Isles. I believe they have been out scored 16-0 the last three games they played there.

ymike673
10-07-17, 07:54 PM
Off to a better start against Buffalo tonight.

Donnybaseball72
10-07-17, 09:00 PM
First 6 goal home opener since 1992. Cizikas and JT with 2 goals each. Keep Seidenberg in the press box.

ymike673
10-07-17, 11:29 PM
First 6 goal home opener since 1992. Cizikas and JT with 2 goals each. Keep Seidenberg in the press box.



5 shorthanded goals in the game. Wonder when the last time that happened in a game?

ymike673
10-15-17, 12:34 AM
Nice win tonight at San Jose. Still no PP goal this season. Kind of like waiting for a Yankees DH to get a playoff base hit.

philleotardo
10-19-17, 07:14 PM
Barzal!

ymike673
10-20-17, 10:41 AM
With last night's victory Isles have now beaten the Rangers in 8 of their last 9 meetings. Nice to know there is one team we can beat.

ymike673
10-22-17, 09:20 AM
Off to a better start than last season. All the better since last season they started out with tons of home games and did not take advantage of them.

Donnybaseball72
10-22-17, 04:56 PM
There was a nice setup by Leddy on Lee's goal and Bailey had his play of the year on his steal, deke, backhanded goal.

philleotardo
10-22-17, 04:57 PM
Thoughts on 7 D?

Donnybaseball72
10-22-17, 06:21 PM
Thoughts on 7 D?

It can't last. Weight is asking too much of his top line to have to double shift. Sit Pelech and let Pulock play as part of a regular pair.

ymike673
10-23-17, 03:18 PM
Isles three points out of first place. Long way to go but nice to see.

ymike673
10-23-17, 03:19 PM
Thoughts on 7 D?

I really hope Pulock stays even if they go back to 6 D men.

ymike673
10-25-17, 11:44 AM
Third place, two points out of first. Much better start than last season.

Donnybaseball72
10-25-17, 01:42 PM
JT hat trick. Pelech the youngest Islander defenseman to have a 3 assist game since Kenny Jonnson. Halak really pissed me off but the team responded by attacking until more goals went in.

According to Art Staple Ho-Sang is going to the AHL. It make sense since he is a regular scratch and is only 21. Fix his flaws and bring him back. I don't know if a forward is coming up to take his spot. Without JHS there are only 12 forward on the roster.

Staple also thinks that Seidenberg will be waived. He is the 8th defenseman and Snow probably can't find a trade partner. There are plenty of young defenseman in the AHL who could take his place if needed.

ymike673
10-30-17, 12:16 PM
Tavares named the NHL #1 star for last week! Congrats JT.

philleotardo
10-30-17, 08:41 PM
Tavares named the NHL #1 star for last week! Congrats JT.

I feel like there's no chance we're re-signing him. Am I crazy?

Donnybaseball72
10-30-17, 09:05 PM
I feel like there's no chance we're re-signing him. Am I crazy?

No chance? Why wouldn't the Islanders have a chance to resign him? I think he resigns.

ymike673
10-30-17, 09:05 PM
I feel like there's no chance we're re-signing him. Am I crazy?

Don't want to think about that right now. Another big win tonight and two more goals from JT.

philleotardo
10-30-17, 09:20 PM
Don't want to think about that right now. Another big win tonight and two more goals from JT.

Yeah, not to kill the moment......they've been scoring in bunches.

Donnybaseball72
11-03-17, 09:02 AM
We absolutely outplayed the Crapitols and should have won without Halak giving the game away with two ugly softies. Goaltending is becoming the weakest link on this team. The offense is there and this team can only go so far with halfway decent goaltending. Greiss needs to reclaim the #1 job quickly.

ymike673
11-03-17, 10:04 AM
Not.blaming Halal. Problem was more the Caps might have the league's best goaltender. Anyone else in goal for them last night and the Isles win. But Isles did get two more PP goals and played hard so there were positives to take from the game.

Donnybaseball72
11-03-17, 11:13 AM
Not.blaming Halal. Problem was more the Caps might have the league's best goaltender. Anyone else in goal for them last night and the Isles win. But Isles did get two more PP goals and played hard so there were positives to take from the game.

Halak gave up 4 goals on 19 shots.

EvanJ
11-16-17, 09:13 PM
Johnny Boychuk became the first Islander in almost 15 years to be +5 or better. He was on the ice for all 5 of the Islanders non-power play goals in their 6-4 win hosting Carolina. The last Islanders to be +5 or better were Jason Wiemer and Dave Scatchard on November 21, 2002. He became the first Islander defenseman to be +5 or better since Joe Reekie on March 28, 1990. He became the second Islander defenseman since 1987-1988 (as far back as the hockey-reference Play Index goes) to be +5 or better and score at least 1 goal. The last Islander to do that was Denis Potvin on January 14, 1988.

ymike673
11-17-17, 12:01 AM
Johnny Boychuk became the first Islander in almost 15 years to be +5 or better. He was on the ice for all 5 of the Islanders non-power play goals in their 6-4 win hosting Carolina. The last Islanders to be +5 or better were Jason Wiemer and Dave Scatchard on November 21, 2002. He became the first Islander defenseman to be +5 or better since Joe Reekie on March 28, 1990. He became the second Islander defenseman since 1987-1988 (as far back as the hockey-reference Play Index goes) to be +5 or better and score at least 1 goal. The last Islander to do that was Denis Potvin on January 14, 1988.


You do this for hockey too? Outstanding. Nice comeback win for the Isles tonight.

philleotardo
11-18-17, 08:35 PM
Phew.

ymike673
11-19-17, 12:30 PM
Managed to hold on for a big win last night. A win today and Islanders shoot to the top of the Division.

ymike673
11-23-17, 10:19 AM
Still the only team not to have a regulation loss at home this season. Guess the so called "Bad Ice" not a problem so far. Tavares was unbelievable getting the puck to Bailey for the OT winner last night.

Donnybaseball72
11-24-17, 07:54 AM
Still the only team not to have a regulation loss at home this season. Guess the so called "Bad Ice" not a problem so far. Tavares was unbelievable getting the puck to Bailey for the OT winner last night.

I was at the game. Half filled crowd but the fans were very into the game. The fan base has gotten younger and more hipster. Not as many middle aged guys from the burbs with their kids as a Saturday game at the NVMC. The first goal by Barzal was awesome as was the game winner which will go down in Islander history as one of the best stick moves by Tavares.

ymike673
11-24-17, 09:07 AM
I was at the game. Half filled crowd but the fans were very into the game. The fan base has gotten younger and more hipster. Not as many middle aged guys from the burbs with their kids as a Saturday game at the NVMC. The first goal by Barzal was awesome as was the game winner which will go down in Islander history as one of the best stick moves by Tavares.



Announced attendance of over 12,000 so more than half full. I was there too and due to problems with the LIRR crowd arrived late. One reason for the low attendance is the Islanders really do not promote the team in Brooklyn. Now I know this is because they plan a new arena at Belmont so why spend the money but if they really had planned to be here long term there would have been ways to raise the attendance.

philleotardo
11-24-17, 09:09 AM
2nd behind TB in goals per game.

ymike673
11-24-17, 09:10 AM
Islanders have registered at least one point in their first 9 home games this season. Last time this was accomplished by the Islanders was back in the 78-79 season.

Donnybaseball72
11-24-17, 05:52 PM
Squeaked out another OT win against Philthy. Now in 2nd place.

ymike673
11-24-17, 11:22 PM
Getting a win after two goals down in the third. This team is really turning into something special. In second place now.

Donnybaseball72
12-08-17, 09:46 AM
The Islanders have a goaltending problem. They have a top 1-3 offense and can score on anymore but can't keep giving up 4-6 goals a game. Only the Oilers of the 80's got away with this.

ymike673
12-09-17, 02:08 PM
The Islanders have a goaltending problem. They have a top 1-3 offense and can score on anymore but can't keep giving up 4-6 goals a game. Only the Oilers of the 80's got away with this.

Not to mention at the bottom in penalty killing and winning faceoffs.

Donnybaseball72
12-19-17, 12:31 PM
https://www.sny.tv/islanders/news/report-islanders-awarded-belmont-site-for-new-arena/263622002

Belmont was awarded to the Islanders! Now resign Tavares.

ymike673
12-19-17, 12:51 PM
https://www.sny.tv/islanders/news/report-islanders-awarded-belmont-site-for-new-arena/263622002

Belmont was awarded to the Islanders! Now resign Tavares.

Press conference tomorrow. Wonder if something will be announced at Barclays this week.

yankeesrule
12-19-17, 02:02 PM
https://www.sny.tv/islanders/news/report-islanders-awarded-belmont-site-for-new-arena/263622002

Belmont was awarded to the Islanders! Now resign Tavares.

Woot!

So two questions-

How long before Nassau coliseum goes bankrupt? Considering they wonít get any shows I give it under 5 years from the arena opening.

More importantly, where do the islanders play for the one or two years between the Barclays contract ending and the new arena being completed? I doubt Barclays or the coliseum will be open to them playing there considering they are opening a competing venue.

Mr. Mxylsplk
12-19-17, 03:36 PM
More importantly, where do the islanders play for the one or two years between the Barclays contract ending and the new arena being completed? I doubt Barclays or the coliseum will be open to them playing there considering they are opening a competing venue.
I'm sure either will be open to them under favorable enough financial terms.

Donnybaseball72
12-19-17, 03:56 PM
Woot!

So two questions-

How long before Nassau coliseum goes bankrupt? Considering they wonít get any shows I give it under 5 years from the arena opening.

More importantly, where do the islanders play for the one or two years between the Barclays contract ending and the new arena being completed? I doubt Barclays or the coliseum will be open to them playing there considering they are opening a competing venue.

They really screwed up rebuilding the arena only after the Islanders left, then reducing the size, then thinking it was suitable for the Islanders to return. What events are currently booked there? Concerts, Ice shows? Any college teams play there? They need to attract a minor league hockey team, NBDL or NLL team.

ymike673
12-19-17, 04:10 PM
Woot!

So two questions-

How long before Nassau coliseum goes bankrupt? Considering they wonít get any shows I give it under 5 years from the arena opening.

More importantly, where do the islanders play for the one or two years between the Barclays contract ending and the new arena being completed? I doubt Barclays or the coliseum will be open to them playing there considering they are opening a competing venue.

I assume Isles will stay at Barclays until the new arena is ready. Since new lease has to be renegotiated by January 1st I think we will know those details soon.

ymike673
12-19-17, 04:12 PM
They really screwed up rebuilding the arena only after the Islanders left, then reducing the size, then thinking it was suitable for the Islanders to return. What events are currently booked there? Concerts, Ice shows? Any college teams play there? They need to attract a minor league hockey team, NBDL or NLL team.

The real screw up was not putting the Belmont site up for bids 5 years ago. Isles could have then stayed at the Coliseum and might have been in the new arena by now.

Mr. Mxylsplk
12-19-17, 04:33 PM
What events are currently booked there? Concerts, Ice shows? Any college teams play there? They need to attract a minor league hockey team, NBDL or NLL team.
Their prime tenant seems to be the Nets minor league team. (And yes, one could argue the Brooklyn Nets are minor league, but that's not who we're talking about). Some college basketball (Hofstra for big games), concerts, other general stuff. It's not a bustling calendar, and if they lose much to Belmont, you'd have to think they'll be in massive trouble.

yankeesrule
12-19-17, 05:49 PM
I assume Isles will stay at Barclays until the new arena is ready. Since new lease has to be renegotiated by January 1st I think we will know those details soon.

That’s actually the reason I think they won’t be at Barclays. I’m assuming even after the RFP is made official there are still a bunch of steps before they can break ground, for example finding and hiring a construction crew, a general contractor, etc. there’s always environmental reviews related to the construction itself that I don’t think is part of the RFP. Because of that, the opening date for the new arena will be estimated, but anything but definite. So it will be hard to put a lease in writing with a hard date.

And considering the coliseum is owned by Barclays and the Isles are opening a new one that will almost definitely bankrupt it, I’m not so sure how accommodating they will be to a lease with much flexibility. Especially considering there will be a new competing arena opening, I can imagine Yormark would want as many dates open to build relationships with whoever runs Disney on Ice, Cirque de Soleil, etc so they will stay there rather than go to the Belmont arena.

I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if for one year the Isles need to share Prudential Center and/or MSG like the Yanks did with Shea in the 70s. Could you imagine the Isles lifting the cup at MSG? Lol.

yankeesrule
12-19-17, 07:42 PM
Town residents are planning a lawsuit to stop the Arena. Doubt this will lead to anything but it will surely slow things down a bit.

http://libn.com/2017/12/19/elmont-residents-plan-lawsuit-to-stop-belmont-arena/

ymike673
12-19-17, 07:49 PM
Thatís actually the reason I think they wonít be at Barclays. Iím assuming even after the RFP is made official there are still a bunch of steps before they can break ground, for example finding and hiring a construction crew, a general contractor, etc. thereís always environmental reviews related to the construction itself that I donít think is part of the RFP. Because of that, the opening date for the new arena will be estimated, but anything but definite. So it will be hard to put a lease in writing with a hard date.

And considering the coliseum is owned by Barclays and the Isles are opening a new one that will almost definitely bankrupt it, Iím not so sure how accommodating they will be to a lease with much flexibility. Especially considering there will be a new competing arena opening, I can imagine Yormark would want as many dates open to build relationships with whoever runs Disney on Ice, Cirque de Soleil, etc so they will stay there rather than go to the Belmont arena.

I honestly wouldnít be surprised if for one year the Isles need to share Prudential Center and/or MSG like the Yanks did with Shea in the 70s. Could you imagine the Isles lifting the cup at MSG? Lol.

I am thinking it will be a year to year lease where the Islanders pay rent to Barclays.

ymike673
12-22-17, 12:18 PM
Isles now only 3 points out of the cellar. You can't give up 5 goals every game and win.

Donnybaseball72
12-22-17, 01:20 PM
When you think about how horrific this goaltending is just look up DiPietro's stats from 09-13. Now those teams were in a perpetual rebuild with a bottom ranking payroll with Roloson helping to ease DP's woos. But to have both goaltenders be so subpar, with no solution in the AHL (both Bridgeport goalies sport a sub .900 sv%) while at the same time possessing the 2nd best offense in the NHL is gutpunching. It will be such a wasted opportunity with JT and Bailey in their walk years to miss the playoffs because they cannot stop the puck from going into the net. :(

ymike673
12-22-17, 09:58 PM
When you think about how horrific this goaltending is just look up DiPietro's stats from 09-13. Now those teams were in a perpetual rebuild with a bottom ranking payroll with Roloson helping to ease DP's woos. But to have both goaltenders be so subpar, with no solution in the AHL (both Bridgeport goalies sport a sub .900 sv%) while at the same time possessing the 2nd best offense in the NHL is gutpunching. It will be such a wasted opportunity with JT and Bailey in their walk years to miss the playoffs because they cannot stop the puck from going into the net. :(


The goaltending has been bad but I don't see the defense really helping either. So now that we are getting a world class arena how about after 14 years dumping our backup goaltender GM and look for a better guy to get this team to the next level.

Donnybaseball72
12-23-17, 10:46 AM
The goaltending has been bad but I don't see the defense really helping either. So now that we are getting a world class arena how about after 14 years dumping our backup goaltender GM and look for a better guy to get this team to the next level.

Snow's recent moves have looked good. Eberlee for Strome. Reinhart for Barzal and Beavy. Everyone applauded the Greiss extension. Only losing Berube and Grabovski in the expansion draft. If he resigns JT and Bailey I can't see him getting fired.

__starr69
12-24-17, 04:38 PM
Snow's recent moves have looked good. Eberlee for Strome. Reinhart for Barzal and Beavy. Everyone applauded the Greiss extension. Only losing Berube and Grabovski in the expansion draft. If he resigns JT and Bailey I can't see him getting fired.

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while.

ymike673
12-24-17, 08:59 PM
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while.

He has been the GM for 14 years and Isles have won one playoff round. On no other team would he have lasted this long. Plus I believe he has only made three in season trades in his 14 years as GM. Should we also give him credit for drafting JT?

ymike673
12-28-17, 03:25 PM
Boychuk on injured reserved list. Defensemen dropping like flies.

Donnybaseball72
12-28-17, 03:30 PM
Boychuk on injured reserved list. Defensemen dropping like flies.

Aho called up to make his NHL debut. Hopefully he does well so we don't see any more of Seidenberg.

ymike673
12-28-17, 05:53 PM
Aho called up to make his NHL debut. Hopefully he does well so we don't see any more of Seidenberg.

Doubt it. Weight likes to rotate the D men. Last night Pulock sat so Seidenberg could play. Aho being called up will not change that.

Donnybaseball72
12-28-17, 07:13 PM
Doubt it. Weight likes to rotate the D men. Last night Pulock sat so Seidenberg could play. Aho being called up will not change that.

Capuano is not the coach anymore. Aho will get his shot. No one outside of Leddy is guaranteed to play every night.

ymike673
12-29-17, 09:24 AM
Capuano is not the coach anymore. Aho will get his shot. No one outside of Leddy is guaranteed to play every night.

My point is Aho being called up will not cut Siedenberg's ice time. I am sure Weight will give Aho a fair shot.

philleotardo
12-29-17, 11:52 AM
Whatever the case, Aho is not active tonight.

ymike673
01-01-18, 08:37 AM
Islanders can't seem to win a road game anymore.

ymike673
01-04-18, 09:35 PM
Another 20 minute effort leads to another loss. Has this team learned anything from last season?

Donnybaseball72
01-06-18, 08:43 AM
I am completely losing my patience with this team. First the Giants and now the Islanders. Uncle!!! Just win a friggen game! This team misses da Haan baddly. He is the one who should have been resigned, not a 5 year deal for Mayfield.

On the bright side Keifer Bellows broke Jeremy Roenik's World Juniors record for most goals scored in one tournament with 9 goals. We could use him right now.

ymike673
01-06-18, 08:53 AM
Now only a few points better than last season at this time. If they end up missing the playoffs again maybe like the Giants Isles could finally sack Snow and replace him with a competent GM. 14 seasons. 1 playoff round win under Snow.

Donnybaseball72
01-06-18, 09:11 AM
Now only a few points better than last season at this time. If they end up missing the playoffs again maybe like the Giants Isles could finally sack Snow and replace him with a competent GM. 14 seasons. 1 playoff round win under Snow.

From what I have read is that Wang have Snow an unfireable extension. Something that includes a clause that Wang would regain part ownership if Snow is fired. Snow is not going anywhere yet. If he can resign JT and Bailey I think he is secure. Weight on the other hand needs to turn this around. He is still an unproven coach.

ymike673
01-06-18, 12:39 PM
From what I have read is that Wang have Snow an unfireable extension. Something that includes a clause that Wang would regain part ownership if Snow is fired. Snow is not going anywhere yet. If he can resign JT and Bailey I think he is secure. Weight on the other hand needs to turn this around. He is still an unproven coach.

Other than Ted Nolan every coach the Isles have hired over the last 20 years has had no NHL coaching experience. Just like our great backup goaltender GM. Can't believe Ledecky and Co. would have alowed such a stupid clause in Snow's contract.

Donnybaseball72
01-11-18, 09:56 AM
Congrats to Josh Bailey for a well deserved 1st allstar nod.

ymike673
01-11-18, 12:32 PM
Congrats to Josh Bailey for a well deserved 1st allstar nod.

Yes, Too bad he probably will not be able to play in the game.

EvanJ
01-13-18, 02:44 PM
In a 7-2 win at the Rangers, Mathew Barzal had 2 goals, 3 assists, and +5. He's 20, and he became the first Islander during his life to have a game with at least 5 points and +5 or better. The last Islander to do that was Niklas Andersson on December 10, 1996.

ymike673
01-13-18, 04:52 PM
Great game coming off the break. Halak was sharp again and Barzal gets better every game. Hopefully Cizikas was not hurt to bad. And going back to last season fifth straight win over the Rangers.

Donnybaseball72
01-21-18, 10:12 AM
Nice win last night in Chicago. Chased another goalie out of the net. Pulock had a 5 point game, first defensemen to do that as a rookie for the Islanders. I figured this was a huge win until I saw that Chicago is actually in last place.

philleotardo
01-21-18, 10:22 AM
Nice win last night in Chicago. Chased another goalie out of the net. Pulock had a 5 point game, first defensemen to do that as a rookie for the Islanders. I figured this was a huge win until I saw that Chicago is actually in last place.

Take it where you can get it. Pointswise, they were a peer team for the Islanders coming in.
I wasnít able to watch- does Johnston bring anything of substance or are they just rubbing Ho-Sangís nose in it?

ymike673
01-21-18, 11:45 AM
Nice win last night in Chicago. Chased another goalie out of the net. Pulock had a 5 point game, first defensemen to do that as a rookie for the Islanders. I figured this was a huge win until I saw that Chicago is actually in last place.

And Isles also caught a break with Hawks coming off their bye week.

Donnybaseball72
01-21-18, 01:57 PM
Take it where you can get it. Pointswise, they were a peer team for the Islanders coming in.
I wasnít able to watch- does Johnston bring anything of substance or are they just rubbing Ho-Sangís nose in it?

He had a assist and beat the snot out of Hawk in a staged fight.

ymike673
01-23-18, 02:25 PM
So after upward game against the Hawks Isles get outplayed by the worst team in the league. And now go to Vegas. Not likely to see a win there.

Donnybaseball72
01-23-18, 02:56 PM
So after upward game against the Hawks Isles get outplayed by the worst team in the league. And now go to Vegas. Not likely to see a win there.

The Islanders outplayed the Yotes in the 2nd and 3rd period and should have won. Raanta was ridiculous.

ymike673
01-23-18, 05:33 PM
The Islanders outplayed the Yotes in the 2nd and 3rd period and should have won. Raanta was ridiculous.

3 shots in the first period. Only a few more in the second. Raanta was good but Isles really did not pressure him that much until mid way in the third. As Goring says all the time Isles continue to look for the perfect play instead of just putting shots on net. Through two periods Arizona had something like 47 shots at the net as opposed to the Isles 27.

Donnybaseball72
01-23-18, 06:38 PM
3 shots in the first period. Only a few more in the second. Raanta was good but Isles really did not pressure him that much until mid way in the third. As Goring says all the time Isles continue to look for the perfect play instead of just putting shots on net. Through two periods Arizona had something like 47 shots at the net as opposed to the Isles 27.

Come on Mike. The Islanders out shot the Yotes 34-33. Look it up.

ymike673
01-23-18, 07:51 PM
Come on Mike. The Islanders out shot the Yotes 34-33. Look it up.

Not shots on goal. Shots at the net. Even if shot was blocked before it got to the goaltender. Goring was giving the disparity all during the game.

ymike673
01-26-18, 04:05 PM
Islanders go to the break on a high note after becoming just the third team to beat the Knights in regulation at Vegas. Halak was tremendous in goal.

philleotardo
01-26-18, 08:10 PM
Arthur Staple leaving Newsday screws up my Islanders coverage.

ymike673
01-26-18, 08:24 PM
Arthur Staple leaving Newsday screws up my Islanders coverage.

Yeah. Hopefully another writer replaces him.

HelloNewman
01-26-18, 09:53 PM
Yeah. Hopefully another writer replaces him.I have it on good authority that they are interviewing for a replacement now. Don't have a timetable on a hire though.

Donnybaseball72
01-27-18, 08:19 AM
Bring back Alan Hahn!

ymike673
01-27-18, 04:25 PM
According to article in Newsday announcement on Monday that Isles will play 12 games at the Coliseum next season and then 21 games there the next two seasons.

philleotardo
02-01-18, 10:38 AM
Arthur Staple leaving Newsday screws up my Islanders coverage.

Staple will be covering the Isles for the Athletic, effective 2/12.

ymike673
02-01-18, 12:18 PM
Another bad loss. Big decisions will have to be made as the trading deadline approaches.

ruthianblast
02-01-18, 05:38 PM
Another bad loss. Big decisions will have to be made as the trading deadline approaches.

Just trade Tavares to the Leafs. Please and thank you.

Donnybaseball72
02-01-18, 05:53 PM
Last night was the worst game I have seen the Islanders play in the Tavares era and I am not even exaggerating. They gave up 50 shots on goal, 50! Veterans coming off the IR every game and they are playing worse. It's really sad to see. Snow should have hired Gallant as soon as he became available before Vegas hired him. This team needs an experienced head coach.

ymike673
02-02-18, 12:06 PM
Last night was the worst game I have seen the Islanders play in the Tavares era and I am not even exaggerating. They gave up 50 shots on goal, 50! Veterans coming off the IR every game and they are playing worse. It's really sad to see. Snow should have hired Gallant as soon as he became available before Vegas hired him. This team needs an experienced head coach.

They need an experienced GM more. Snow said yesterday he would not trade Tavares at the deadline. So now he risks losing JT and getting nothing in return. Plus they guy has made just three in season trades in 12 years. No other franchise would have had this guy as GM for 12 years given the results.

ymike673
02-09-18, 10:26 PM
Wild one at Barclays tonight. Isles score 4 times on a major penalty to Detroit late in the third to take a one goal lead. Wings pull the goaltender and tie the game with 29 seconds to go. Than Isles win in OT as Brock Nelson completes the hat trick. Halak in relief gets the win.

philleotardo
02-10-18, 06:51 AM
Second 5-assist game for Barzal. Only Gretzky and Lemieux had more than two in a season.

Donnybaseball72
02-10-18, 08:21 AM
Second 5-assist game for Barzal. Only Gretzky and Lemieux had more than two in a season.

As rookies?

philleotardo
02-10-18, 08:27 AM
As rookies?

No.

https://twitter.com/statscentre/status/962183964264890368

CanoForPresident
02-10-18, 09:45 AM
As rookies?

No, but he is the first rookie to have three-five point games in 100 years.

Islanders are also on pace to become the first team to give up 300 goals since the 06-07 Flyers. They may lead the league in Goals scored and finish dead last in goals against. I wonder if thats ever happened before.

ymike673
02-10-18, 10:20 AM
Barzal first rookie to have two 5 assists games.

philleotardo
02-10-18, 03:13 PM
Eric Hornick has a bunch of crazy numbers from last night , but my favorite is that 17 NHL rookies have 24 points or more. Barzal has that in his 6 best games.

ymike673
02-10-18, 06:30 PM
I like the stat about Barzal being the second rookie ever with three 5 point games. The other player, Joe Malone did it over 100 years ago.

philleotardo
02-10-18, 07:47 PM
I like the stat about Barzal being the second rookie ever with three 5 point games. The other player, Joe Malone did it over 100 years ago.

And he was only considered a rookie because the entire league was considered rookies- Malone had played professionally before.

HelloNewman
02-10-18, 07:56 PM
And he was only considered a rookie because the entire league was considered rookies- Malone had played professionally before."Phantom Joe" Malone finished the 1917-18 season with 44 goals in 20 games ... and 4 assists. Wow.

ymike673
02-10-18, 09:51 PM
"Phantom Joe" Malone finished the 1917-18 season with 44 goals in 20 games ... and 4 assists. Wow.

He had a rather short NHL career.

HelloNewman
02-11-18, 03:20 PM
He had a rather short NHL career.Maybe that's why he was "Phantom Joe." He disappeared so quickly. :(

HelloNewman
02-11-18, 03:50 PM
They may lead the league in Goals scored and finish dead last in goals against. I wonder if thats ever happened before.I found two instances, both from the formative years. The 1925-26 Toronto St. Patricks, in a 36-game schedule, scored 92 goals to tie the Boston Bruins for 1st in a 7-team league. They allowed a league-most 114.

The 1926-27 Chicago Black Hawks (2 words) led a 10-team NHL outright in a 44-game schedule with 115 goals scored, and their 116 goals allowed was the most.

It did not happen again through the end of the Original Six era (1966-67 season), the last year I checked. Possible it's happened since then but I doubt it.

ymike673
02-11-18, 08:57 PM
So that's now 4 straight games Isles give up a late goal in the third. Losing three of the games. No offense at all in the third period.

Donnybaseball72
02-11-18, 09:35 PM
This team is not coached properly. Weight has to go.

ymike673
02-12-18, 05:52 PM
This team is not coached properly. Weight has to go.

Need to replace Snow first. Then the new GM can find us an experienced coach.

ymike673
02-16-18, 03:41 PM
Apparently there is one team the Islanders have no trouble beating. Now have won 10 out of their last 11 games against the Rangers including 5-0 at Barclays Center.

Donnybaseball72
02-17-18, 11:28 AM
Two straight 3-0 shutouts on back to back nights? I should leave the country more often.

ymike673
02-17-18, 02:56 PM
Two straight 3-0 shutouts on back to back nights? I should leave the country more often.

I wonder if a team ever alowed 95 shots on goal in consecutive games and got two shutouts.

trentonthunder
02-17-18, 04:04 PM
I like the stat about Barzal being the second rookie ever with three 5 point games. The other player, Joe Malone did it over 100 years ago.


That kid is no joke.

ymike673
02-17-18, 06:09 PM
That kid is no joke.

Malone really was not a rookie. First season of the NHL. Everyone in the league was considered a rookie that season. Malone had been a pro for several years before that season.

CanoForPresident
02-17-18, 07:09 PM
I found two instances, both from the formative years. The 1925-26 Toronto St. Patricks, in a 36-game schedule, scored 92 goals to tie the Boston Bruins for 1st in a 7-team league. They allowed a league-most 114.

The 1926-27 Chicago Black Hawks (2 words) led a 10-team NHL outright in a 44-game schedule with 115 goals scored, and their 116 goals allowed was the most.

It did not happen again through the end of the Original Six era (1966-67 season), the last year I checked. Possible it's happened since then but I doubt it.

They decided to try their best not to join that group by becoming the first team in league history to post 40+ save shutouts on back to back nights.

Ya'll have a weird ass team.

ymike673
02-17-18, 08:24 PM
They decided to try their best not to join that group by becoming the first team in league history to post 40+ save shutouts on back to back nights.

Ya'll have a weird ass team.

We sure do. Can't wait for the billboard calling for the ouster of Snow to go up.

ymike673
02-23-18, 11:36 AM
Bailey signs a 6 year extension.

Donnybaseball72
02-23-18, 01:35 PM
Bailey signs a 6 year extension.

$5 million per. That is an outstanding deal. Even you the biggest Garth Snow hater has to agree right?

ymike673
02-23-18, 01:47 PM
$5 million per. That is an outstanding deal. Even you the biggest Garth Snow hater has to agree right?

I am not his biggest hater. That would be the people paying for the billboards. And It's not like a more competent GM would not have signed Bailey too. Trading deadline a few days away. Although Garth will probably ignore it like every other season.

Donnybaseball72
02-23-18, 07:22 PM
I am not his biggest hater. That would be the people paying for the billboards. And It's not like a more competent GM would not have signed Bailey too. Trading deadline a few days away. Although Garth will probably ignore it like every other season.

You are ridiculous. Other GM's would have overpaid Bailey for far more. The billboard campaign is stupid. I hate to break it to you but once Tavares is resigned Snow is not going anywhere.


But Doug Weight should.

ymike673
02-23-18, 08:43 PM
You are ridiculous. Other GM's would have overpaid Bailey for far more. The billboard campaign is stupid. I hate to break it to you but once Tavares is resigned Snow is not going anywhere.


But Doug Weight should.

If Weight goes Garth will just hire someone else with no NHL coaching experience. For the life of me I can't believe the love for this guy. 12 years and Isles are at Best an 8th seed again.

philleotardo
02-23-18, 08:45 PM
It canít all fall on Weight. Thereís nothing about this roster that suggests they should be any good defensively.

ymike673
02-23-18, 08:48 PM
It canít all fall on Weight. Thereís nothing about this roster that suggests they should be any good defensively.

Fine. And who put this roster together? The great Garth. If Isles miss the playoffs again Garth should be canned. Unless you really think Tavares will only stay if Garth is here.

philleotardo
02-23-18, 08:53 PM
Fine. And who put this roster together? The great Garth. If Isles miss the playoffs again Garth should be canned. Unless you really think Tavares will only stay if Garth is here.

I think thatís the point Iím making........?

ymike673
02-23-18, 09:51 PM
I think thatís the point Iím making........?

Ok, I probably misunderstood you. But who knows, maybe an experienced coach might have done better. But all Snow hires to coach are guys with no NHL coaching experience. Whether Tavares re-signs should not be the reason for keeping Snow.

philleotardo
02-26-18, 05:56 PM
Sooo, not buying or selling. Stand pat seems like an odd choice for the last team outside looking in.

ymike673
02-26-18, 08:09 PM
Sooo, not buying or selling. Stand pat seems like an odd choice for the last team outside looking in.

Not when your GM is Garth Snow. If you think Garth will ever make a big deal at the deadline I have a nice bridge I can sell you. Until the Isles have someone competent running the show they will always be a team looking to just barely be the 8th seed.

Donnybaseball72
03-09-18, 08:00 AM
Christopher Gibson in his 6th career start holds to Oilers to one goal in 65 minutyes....and loses! So when the Islanders figure out defense and goaltending they stop scoring. What a disaster of a season. I couldn't even watch yesterday since we are without power and didn't even care.

ymike673
03-09-18, 12:26 PM
Christopher Gibson in his 6th career start holds to Oilers to one goal in 65 minutyes....and loses! So when the Islanders figure out defense and goaltending they stop scoring. What a disaster of a season. I couldn't even watch yesterday since we are without power and didn't even care.

Basically every game the same. They get a lead in the third but can't hold it. 7 points out of the last spot. Gibson should be given more starts. But hey. No reason to dump Snow and Weight.

ymike673
03-16-18, 05:26 PM
So with the team basically finished for the season anyone think Ledecky and Co. will finally dump Snow and hire someone competent to run the team?

Donnybaseball72
03-16-18, 06:32 PM
So with the team basically finished for the season anyone think Ledecky and Co. will finally dump Snow and hire someone competent to run the team?

No. Apparently Wang gave him a lengthy extensions that is guaranteed once L&M took over. Ledecky has no idea how to run hockey operations and without even a team president in place he would be afraid to fire Snow.

I welcome any change to the front office and coaching that will make this team better but I don't see the new owners making a change. If Tavares winds up leaving then maybe they will wake up.

This doesn't change the fact that I think Weight is finished once the season ends. Ledecky ordered Snow to fire Capuano so he shouldn't be afraid to can Weight who is a lousy head coach. They messed up by not hiring Jack Adam's candidate Gallant before Vegas nabbed him. They need to find an experienced coach for once.

ymike673
03-17-18, 01:16 PM
No. Apparently Wang gave him a lengthy extensions that is guaranteed once L&M took over. Ledecky has no idea how to run hockey operations and without even a team president in place he would be afraid to fire Snow.

I welcome any change to the front office and coaching that will make this team better but I don't see the new owners making a change. If Tavares winds up leaving then maybe they will wake up.

This doesn't change the fact that I think Weight is finished once the season ends. Ledecky ordered Snow to fire Capuano so he shouldn't be afraid to can Weight who is a lousy head coach. They messed up by not hiring Jack Adam's candidate Gallant before Vegas nabbed him. They need to find an experienced coach for once.

I agree but all Snow does is hire coaches from the minors with no NHL experience. So if he dumps Weight he probably replaces him with the current Bridgeport coach. Ledecky should at least kick Snow upstairs and hire a real GM. I thought Ledecky's partner was with the Capitals. You would think he would know something about running a team.

Donnybaseball72
03-17-18, 07:13 PM
https://www.sny.tv/islanders/news/ledeckys-continued-slience-could-mean-snow-removal/268941206

Botta seems to think Snow's job is in danger. Hopefully Ledecky and Malkin are making contacts outside the organization in secret.

ymike673
03-17-18, 08:58 PM
https://www.sny.tv/islanders/news/ledeckys-continued-slience-could-mean-snow-removal/268941206

Botta seems to think Snow's job is in danger. Hopefully Ledecky and Malkin are making contacts outside the organization in secret.

We can hope anyway.

HelloNewman
03-17-18, 09:08 PM
We can hope anyway.I have tickets this Tuesday. A friend is expecting me to go. I think I'd rather go to the dentist.

ymike673
03-18-18, 06:49 PM
And the losses just keep on coming.

ymike673
03-25-18, 02:43 PM
Islanders about to be officially eliminated from the playoffs about 2 weeks earlier than last season. Way to go Garth!!!!

Donnybaseball72
03-27-18, 10:43 AM
Islanders about to be officially eliminated from the playoffs about 2 weeks earlier than last season. Way to go Garth!!!!

I follow an excellent Islander fan forum at http://www.islandermania.com/ . You would be a great addition. There is a long running thread dedicated to Garth and fans do not hold back their punches. Word from an insider is that Garth will be moved to another role in the organization and all coaches will be canned. Something is happening.

ymike673
03-27-18, 12:53 PM
I follow an excellent Islander fan forum at http://www.islandermania.com/ . You would be a great addition. There is a long running thread dedicated to Garth and fans do not hold back their punches. Word from an insider is that Garth will be moved to another role in the organization and all coaches will be canned. Something is happening.

Great if it happens. But if Garth's replacement is another no name it won't mean a thing. Other than Torrey all the GM's after him have been pretty bad except possibly the 6 weeks that Neil Smith was the GM.

philleotardo
04-03-18, 06:26 PM
Barzal with assist #60.

ymike673
04-04-18, 11:56 AM
Barzal with assist #60.

Barzal could be the new face of the franchise next season.

ymike673
04-07-18, 09:02 PM
Lee 40 goals, Tavares in OT. Nice finish to a disappointing season. Will Lee and Tavares be here next season? God knows.

Donnybaseball72
04-08-18, 08:21 AM
Lee still has a year left in his deal. Nelson is a RFA with arbitration rights. What's happening to de Haan? He is a FA.

ymike673
04-08-18, 10:34 PM
Lee still has a year left in his deal. Nelson is a RFA with arbitration rights. What's happening to de Haan? He is a FA.

Are you sure about Lee having another year?

Donnybaseball72
04-08-18, 11:06 PM
Are you sure about Lee having another year?

100% sure. $3.75 million

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/cap-central/team.php?team=NYI

ymike673
04-09-18, 03:11 PM
After hearing the press conference from the current bad owner really have to think of just finding a new team. I almost hope JT leaves on the slim chance that it would get Snow canned.

HelloNewman
04-09-18, 06:30 PM
After hearing the press conference from the current bad owner really have to think of just finding a new team. I almost hope JT leaves on the slim chance that it would get Snow canned.Same here. I've got ties to North Carolina and even own a Hurricanes jersey, maybe that's the way to go? :dunno: They've been bad for years but they just got a new owner so maybe just maybe he'll be better than feckless Ledecky.

Donnybaseball72
04-09-18, 07:52 PM
It's Wang refusing to fire Milbury all over again. But Milbury's team went to the Playoffs 3 straight years beginning in Wang's 2nd season. This biggest tragedy is Weight returning. Just no accountability. :(

ymike673
04-09-18, 08:56 PM
It's Wang refusing to fire Milbury all over again. But Milbury's team went to the Playoffs 3 straight years beginning in Wang's 2nd season. This biggest tragedy is Weight returning. Just no accountability. :(

Not really concerned about Weight. Snow would just replace him with another lackey that he can control.

Donnybaseball72
04-09-18, 09:48 PM
Not really concerned about Weight. Snow would just replace him with another lackey that he can control.

So you are OK with Weight returning? He is just as culpable for this mess. He can't coach!

ymike673
04-10-18, 11:15 AM
So you are OK with Weight returning? He is just as culpable for this mess. He can't coach!

No I am not. It just does not matter right now. If Isles dumped Snow then sure I want a real coach. But Snow will just hire someone as bad as Weught.

Donnybaseball72
04-10-18, 03:48 PM
No I am not. It just does not matter right now. If Isles dumped Snow then sure I want a real coach. But Snow will just hire someone as bad as Weught.

Lets say he hired someone like a Ken Hitchcock or Lindy Ruff? I think the team would instantly be better.

HelloNewman
04-10-18, 10:42 PM
Lets say he hired someone like a Ken Hitchcock or Lindy Ruff? I think the team would instantly be better.OK but I think ymike's point is, he won't. Just as one example, Bylsma was just sitting there after the Islanders' disastrous 2013-14 season and Snow never even inquired (I understand about Bylsma's negatives but I'm saying they don't even seem to have been interested. Do your due diligence and at least TALK to him.)

Again, I suspect Weight's eventual successor will be current Sound Tigers coach Brent Thompson. Won an ECHL championship once. Will be happy to get the job. Yes, sir, Mr. Snow.

Donnybaseball72
04-11-18, 09:20 AM
OK but I think ymike's point is, he won't. Just as one example, Bylsma was just sitting there after the Islanders' disastrous 2013-14 season and Snow never even inquired (I understand about Bylsma's negatives but I'm saying they don't even seem to have been interested. Do your due diligence and at least TALK to him.)

Again, I suspect Weight's eventual successor will be current Sound Tigers coach Brent Thompson. Won an ECHL championship once. Will be happy to get the job. Yes, sir, Mr. Snow.

Ledecky can step in and insist on an experienced head coach. They dropped the ball on Gallant with that window after he was fired by Florida and hired by Vegas.

ymike673
04-11-18, 11:13 AM
Ledecky can step in and insist on an experienced head coach. They dropped the ball on Gallant with that window after he was fired by Florida and hired by Vegas.

Ledecky could also step in and hire an experienced GM who would then hire an experienced coach. Anybody think that is happening anytime soon?

ymike673
04-11-18, 11:15 AM
OK but I think ymike's point is, he won't. Just as one example, Bylsma was just sitting there after the Islanders' disastrous 2013-14 season and Snow never even inquired (I understand about Bylsma's negatives but I'm saying they don't even seem to have been interested. Do your due diligence and at least TALK to him.)

Again, I suspect Weight's eventual successor will be current Sound Tigers coach Brent Thompson. Won an ECHL championship once. Will be happy to get the job. Yes, sir, Mr. Snow.

My thoughts exactly. Which is why I do not care if Weight stays or not as long as Garth is running things.

HelloNewman
04-11-18, 01:04 PM
Ledecky can step in and insist on an experienced head coach. They dropped the ball on Gallant with that window after he was fired by Florida and hired by Vegas.Sure he COULD but what makes you think he will? He just brought back Weight. So far all I see from Feckless Ledecky is he can ride the train with fans and do other photo-oppy things that make Newsday go ooh and ahh. He has no game when you peel away the PR. And Malkin might as well be Roebuck to Sears, does he even exist?

philleotardo
04-11-18, 01:08 PM
Minor note- Mikko Koskinen is rumored to be signing with the Islanders on 7/1.

ymike673
04-11-18, 01:21 PM
Minor note- Mikko Koskinen is rumored to be signing with the Islanders on 7/1.

To take the sting of someone else not signing with the Isles on 7/1.

ymike673
04-11-18, 01:23 PM
Sure he COULD but what makes you think he will? He just brought back Weight. So far all I see from Feckless Ledecky is he can ride the train with fans and do other photo-oppy things that make Newsday go ooh and ahh. He has no game when you peel away the PR. And Malkin might as well be Roebuck to Sears, does he even exist?

Malkin might actually be making the decisions. Kind of like Ledecky is Hank and Malkin is Hal.

HelloNewman
04-12-18, 01:19 AM
Malkin might actually be making the decisions. Kind of like Ledecky is Hank and Malkin is Hal.I've been trying to think if there's a modern precedent in pro sports of a GM having the terrible record that Snow has and yet holding his job this long. I thought first of Matt Millen with the Detroit Lions -- and in fairness to Garth, Millen's track record was even worse than Snow's, but Millen lasted "only" eight years.

I guess Elgin Baylor's 22-year run with the LA Clippers is probably the best equivalent. But even sorry Elgin won an "Executive of the Year" award once during that run. What Snow is pulling off is fairly historic in North American team sports. A GM with a godawful track record going on his 13th year now with an iron grip on the job and no end in sight.

It should also be noted that neither Millen nor Baylor ever had at their disposal a player as prominent and as impactful in their leagues as John Tavares is in the NHL. And Tavares didn't get here due to smart moves by Snow, the Islanders won the draft lottery. A monkey would have known to draft Tavares.

Edit: Sorry I didn't address your point about Malkin. What's going through my mind now is the longevity of Snow despite ... well despite the amazing mountain of evidence that he should be gone.

ymike673
04-12-18, 07:47 AM
I like what you said. Can't think of any GM in the modern era either. And at least until July 1st Isles had two elite players if you add Barzal to the mix but still the same sorry results.

Donnybaseball72
04-17-18, 06:42 PM
https://www.sny.tv/islanders/news/islanders-looking-to-hire-top-hockey-executive/272574748


Co-owners Scott Malkin and Jon Ledecky are in the process of identifying a top executive to join the Islanders' hockey operations department, two NHL sources confirmed on Tuesday to SNY's Point Blank.

Since current Islanders President/GM/Alternate Governor Garth Snow has not been relieved of his duties more than a week since the end of another disastrous season, it is believed that the new hire would become Islanders GM while Snow would remain President (or given a new title).

The process includes asking other NHL teams for permission to speak to some of their executives. Among those expected to be on Malkin and Ledecky's list of highly-regarded hockey people to interview are Julian BriseBois (Lightning), Paul Fenton (Predators), and Tom Fitzgerald (Devils), who are assistant general managers with their respective clubs.

One source said that Malkin and Ledecky will wait for the completion of the first round of the Stanley Cup Playoffs -- to see which executives become available -- before intensifying the process. A conversation with Maple Leafs GM Lou Lamoriello, whose son Chris is the Islanders' assistant GM, should also be of interest to the Islanders' owners if the legendary ex-Devils boss becomes available.

Many of the top candidates will not be interested in joining the Islanders unless Malkin and Ledecky give them complete autonomy of the hockey operations.

While a hire could be made before the second round of the playoffs, Malkin and Ledecky are said to not have a timeline. Their priority is to hire the best person when they are available.

ymike673
04-18-18, 09:14 AM
The key phrase is complete autonomy. As long as Snow is around will L &M really give another guy total authority?

Donnybaseball72
04-18-18, 01:10 PM
The key phrase is complete autonomy. As long as Snow is around will L &M really give another guy total authority?

They will have to if they want the best candidate. I've mentioned this once before, Snow's golden parachute extension that was handed to him from Wang on his way out is a big reason why he hasn't been fired, not because L & M really like him. From what I have read he has 5-6 years left at around $3 million annually. There is no compliance buyout for fired general managers and coaches. Reassigning him and moving his office to the basement with Milton from Intertech the way this may work out.

ymike673
04-18-18, 02:42 PM
On another site I read that some of the ticket reps who are trying to sell tickets for next year are asking clients if they would be more inclined to buy ticket plans if Garth was not the GM.

trentonthunder
04-19-18, 03:46 PM
No I am not. It just does not matter right now. If Isles dumped Snow then sure I want a real coach. But Snow will just hire someone as bad as Weught.


You are a knowledgeable fan.


I've been saying the same thing on the Ranger board. It doesn't matter how much the Rangers gut the team, because their draft history is horrific. Their trade history is questionable, and their future is bleak. No brains in management for years.

ymike673
04-19-18, 09:50 PM
You are a knowledgeable fan.


I've been saying the same thing on the Ranger board. It doesn't matter how much the Rangers gut the team, because their draft history is horrific. Their trade history is questionable, and their future is bleak. No brains in management for years.

Are you kidding me. Rangers made the Finals 4 years ago. Try rooting for a team that has won one round in 25 years! I admit your team has made some bad moves but nothing compared to what I have had to go through. Do not think the Rangers would ever take their backup goaltender and make him the GM.

HelloNewman
04-20-18, 01:07 AM
https://www.sny.tv/islanders/news/islanders-looking-to-hire-top-hockey-executive/272574748This is encouraging to a degree and fits with some of the things I've heard from a journalist friend (not a hockey writer but an ardent fan who knows a few people in the organization). As ymike says though, the key is autonomy. They've already announced that Weight is coming back. Just to use Lamoriello as an example (not saying it would be him but he was mentioned in article), I don't think he'd tolerate Weight for more than a week. He went through coaches like Grant went through Richmond when he was running the Devils and a lot of them were better coaches than Weight. Would any self-respecting good hockey man accept the assignment knowing he has to keep Weight? I doubt it.


They will have to if they want the best candidate. I've mentioned this once before, Snow's golden parachute extension that was handed to him from Wang on his way out is a big reason why he hasn't been fired, not because L & M really like him. From what I have read he has 5-6 years left at around $3 million annually. There is no compliance buyout for fired general managers and coaches. Reassigning him and moving his office to the basement with Milton from Intertech the way this may work out.Just wondering because I don't know, do we know when Wang handed the "golden parachute" to Snow? Was it during the "interregnum" 2 years when the sale was signed and sealed but Wang still officially the owner? If so, if I'm Ledecky and Malkin, I am having an effing stroke right now. I'd be absolutely enraged and I'd be talking to attorneys.

Donnybaseball72
04-20-18, 09:02 AM
Are you kidding me. Rangers made the Finals 4 years ago. Try rooting for a team that has won one round in 25 years! I admit your team has made some bad moves but nothing compared to what I have had to go through. Do not think the Rangers would ever take their backup goaltender and make him the GM.

The Islanders beat the Panthers in the first round 2 years ago with an epic OT game winner by Tavares in game 7. Did you forget?

You are still hung up on the "backup goaltender becomes GM" story line. His position as an NHL player is irrelevant. The league is filled with backup goaltenders in management and coaching. His lack of experience at the time is no longer relevant because it's been 12 years. If he was assistant GM for 6 years and then GM for the last 6 it wouldn't change the fact that he should be replaced.

Donnybaseball72
04-20-18, 09:05 AM
Just wondering because I don't know, do we know when Wang handed the "golden parachute" to Snow? Was it during the "interregnum" 2 years when the sale was signed and sealed but Wang still officially the owner? If so, if I'm Ledecky and Malkin, I am having an effing stroke right now. I'd be absolutely enraged and I'd be talking to attorneys.

According to Art Staple it was handed to him right before Wang relinquished majority control to Ledecky and Malkin 2 years ago. Pure shadyness by Wacko Wang. You want someone to blame for the mess the Isles are in, how about Wang? He's the won who fired Neil Smith after 40 days and forces LaFontaine out the door in protest.

ymike673
04-20-18, 12:38 PM
The Islanders beat the Panthers in the first round 2 years ago with an epic OT game winner by Tavares in game 7. Did you forget?

You are still hung up on the "backup goaltender becomes GM" story line. His position as an NHL player is irrelevant. The league is filled with backup goaltenders in management and coaching. His lack of experience at the time is no longer relevant because it's been 12 years. If he was assistant GM for 6 years and then GM for the last 6 it wouldn't change the fact that he should be replaced.

I know they beat the Panthers two seasons ago. If you read my post I said they won one round in 25 seasons. That was the one. Maybe You are right that Snow now has experience. I mention that about his prior status because I know of no other team that ever handed the GM job over to a guy with no experience at all in any management capacity.

ymike673
04-20-18, 12:40 PM
This is encouraging to a degree and fits with some of the things I've heard from a journalist friend (not a hockey writer but an ardent fan who knows a few people in the organization). As ymike says though, the key is autonomy. They've already announced that Weight is coming back. Just to use Lamoriello as an example (not saying it would be him but he was mentioned in article), I don't think he'd tolerate Weight for more than a week. He went through coaches like Grant went through Richmond when he was running the Devils and a lot of them were better coaches than Weight. Would any self-respecting good hockey man accept the assignment knowing he has to keep Weight? I doubt it.

Just wondering because I don't know, do we know when Wang handed the "golden parachute" to Snow? Was it during the "interregnum" 2 years when the sale was signed and sealed but Wang still officially the owner? If so, if I'm Ledecky and Malkin, I am having an effing stroke right now. I'd be absolutely enraged and I'd be talking to attorneys.

It has not been officially announced that Weight is coming back. Ledecky said he is still evaluating things.

philleotardo
04-20-18, 12:44 PM
It has not been officially announced that Weight is coming back. Ledecky said he is still evaluating things.

ďJT, do you like Weight as a coach, check yes or no.Ē

ymike673
04-20-18, 01:29 PM
ďJT, do you like Weight as a coach, check yes or no.Ē

Sadly would not doubt that happening.

CanoForPresident
04-20-18, 01:38 PM
You are a knowledgeable fan.


I've been saying the same thing on the Ranger board. It doesn't matter how much the Rangers gut the team, because their draft history is horrific. Their trade history is questionable, and their future is bleak. No brains in management for years.


And no one listens because your points are and have always been terrible.

Their horrific draft history still led it self to three final four appearances and a finals appearance. You know who else has done that with out winning the whole thing in the same time frame? The Tampa Bay Lightning, who have not only been more or less universally lauded for their drafting and trade history, but also had the privilege of having three top 3 draft selections from 2008-2013. Stevie Y and his crew haven't exactly been free of bad trades, signings (Carle, Callahan, Fillpula) or draft picks either (no one will bring up Brett Connolly or Slater Koekkoek, both were high 1st round selections who didn't exactly pan out.)

If the Rangers are the standard of what a poor front office is, then there are a ton of teams in the league who are doing much worse than they are, including your Devils.

Ymike has a good point - The Islanders 1 series win in 25 years is a remarkable accomplishment in ineptitude with the bevy of high draft selections they've had since then.

How they were only able to manage a single series win during the Tavares era is something that you have to almost try to do. Buffalo looks like they're ready to rival that with the Eichel era but we'll see how that ends up. If you can't differentiate that between what you perceive to be brainless management, management isn't the one who is brainless.

ymike673
04-20-18, 02:55 PM
And no one listens because your points are and have always been terrible.

Their horrific draft history still led it self to three final four appearances and a finals appearance. You know who else has done that with out winning the whole thing in the same time frame? The Tampa Bay Lightning, who have not only been more or less universally lauded for their drafting and trade history, but also had the privilege of having three top 3 draft selections from 2008-2013. Stevie Y and his crew haven't exactly been free of bad trades, signings (Carle, Callahan, Fillpula) or draft picks either (no one will bring up Brett Connolly or Slater Koekkoek, both were high 1st round selections who didn't exactly pan out.)

If the Rangers are the standard of what a poor front office is, then there are a ton of teams in the league who are doing much worse than they are, including your Devils.

Ymike has a good point - The Islanders 1 series win in 25 years is a remarkable accomplishment in ineptitude with the bevy of high draft selections they've had since then.

How they were only able to manage a single series win during the Tavares era is something that you have to almost try to do. Buffalo looks like they're ready to rival that with the Eichel era but we'll see how that ends up. If you can't differentiate that between what you perceive to be brainless management, management isn't the one who is brainless.

You are so right. And as much as I dislike the Rangers I would trade their front office for my inept bunch of clowns any day of the week. By the way 2018 marks the 30th anniversary of the last time the Isles won the Division. And incredibly only twice, (1990 & 2014) in those 30 years have the Isles even been in first place as late as February. And never later than that month.

Donnybaseball72
04-20-18, 03:51 PM
I know they beat the Panthers two seasons ago. If you read my post I said they won one round in 25 seasons. That was the one. Maybe You are right that Snow now has experience. I mention that about his prior status because I know of no other team that ever handed the GM job over to a guy with no experience at all in any management capacity.

The Habs handed the GM to Serge Savard right after he retired as a player and it worked! He was the GM when they won Cups in 86 and 93. You gotta pick the right guy and draft a goalie like Patrick Roy.

ymike673
04-20-18, 05:03 PM
The Habs handed the GM to Serge Savard right after he retired as a player and it worked! He was the GM when they won Cups in 86 and 93. You gotta pick the right guy and draft a goalie like Patrick Roy.

Milbury drafted a goalie almost as good but promptly traded Luongo away two years later.

trentonthunder
04-20-18, 05:52 PM
You are so right. And as much as I dislike the Rangers I would trade their front office for my inept bunch of clowns any day of the week. By the way 2018 marks the 30th anniversary of the last time the Isles won the Division. And incredibly only twice, (1990 & 2014) in those 30 years have the Isles even been in first place as late as February. And never later than that month.



So the Islanders have won four Stanley Cups in the past 38 years and the Rangers have won four Stanley Cups in the past 90 years, and some people are trying to explain to me that historically the Islanders are a worse organization then the Rangers ?


LMAO. Here's my question to you geniuses. How many hall of famers have the Islanders drafted in the past 50 years, and how many have the Rangers drafted.

While you're looking for the answer, please think of me laughing my ass off at your responses.

trentonthunder
04-20-18, 05:55 PM
None of us were either alive in 1928, 1933, and 1940. Three times the hopeless Rangers won the cup. It was the smallest NHL league in it's history.


The Islanders won cups with an expanded league, and four times against arguably the greatest player who ever lived (outside of Bobby Orr).


LMAO

trentonthunder
04-20-18, 06:04 PM
I'll answer the question for you so you don't have to look.


In the past 50 years the only hall of famer the Rangers have drafted that won a cup for them is Brian Leetch.


The Islanders drafted Bill Smith, Denis Potvin, Bryan Trottier, Mike Bossy, and Clark Gillies.


So one hall of famer drafted by the Rangers and one Stanley Cup.
Five hall of famers drafted by the Islanders and four Stanley Cups.


Obviously CFP believes that finishing in second place in the NHL means something. LMAO.
Kids in Canada don't even touch the Stanley Cup unless they win it. Second place means absolutely nothing to real hockey players. They all understand the tradition. Second place. LMAO.

CanoForPresident
04-20-18, 06:49 PM
None of us were either alive in 1928, 1933, and 1940. Three times the hopeless Rangers won the cup. It was the smallest NHL league in it's history.


The Islanders won cups with an expanded league, and four times against arguably the greatest player who ever lived (outside of Bobby Orr).


LMAO

So going back in history back to a time when the game isn't comparable at all to what we have today is only a valid argument when it supports what you're saying?

What do a bunch of guys that these teams drafted 30-40 years ago have to do with today? Most if not all of the guys in the front offices of those teams are dead now. Ymike has been talking about the Islanders under Garth Snow, not Bill Torrey. Try to keep up, this isn't that difficult.

Finishing 2nd in the NHL means that you won your conference and played for the cup (in a league that has expanded even more since the 80's!) There are a ................ ton of fan bases in this league who would trade the results they've had for the last 10 years for what the Rangers were able to experience, this conversation is going on in a fan thread for one of them. So once again, if building a legitimate contender is the bar that is set for management being brainless, the hell does that say about 80+% of the league?

ymike673
04-20-18, 10:03 PM
The Rangers never won the Cup in the 6 team NHL. All their Cups won from 1940 and before the league had 7 to 10 teams depending on the year.

Donnybaseball72
04-21-18, 05:42 PM
I'll answer the question for you so you don't have to look.


In the past 50 years the only hall of famer the Rangers have drafted that won a cup for them is Brian Leetch.


The Islanders drafted Bill Smith, Denis Potvin, Bryan Trottier, Mike Bossy, and Clark Gillies.


So one hall of famer drafted by the Rangers and one Stanley Cup.
Five hall of famers drafted by the Islanders and four Stanley Cups.


Obviously CFP believes that finishing in second place in the NHL means something. LMAO.
Kids in Canada don't even touch the Stanley Cup unless they win it. Second place means absolutely nothing to real hockey players. They all understand the tradition. Second place. LMAO.

Smith wasn't drafted by the Islanders. He was picked in the expansion draft. Replace Smith with LaFontaine.

I thought Mike Richter was in the HOF but he is not.

ymike673
04-21-18, 05:59 PM
Smith wasn't drafted by the Islanders. He was picked in the expansion draft. Replace Smith with LaFontaine.

I thought Mike Richter was in the HOF but he is not.

He probably is not counting LaFontaine because he did not play on a Cup winning Isles team.

philleotardo
04-28-18, 06:52 PM
Blech, pick 11th and 12th

ymike673
04-29-18, 08:19 AM
Blech, pick 11th and 12th

Yes, The Isles run of bad luck continues. Meanwhile Carolina moves up to the second pick.

Donnybaseball72
04-29-18, 09:40 AM
At least Buffalo finally won the 1st overall pick. Good for them.

ymike673
05-03-18, 12:38 PM
RIP Bill Torrey. The architect passes away. He was 83.

HelloNewman
05-11-18, 10:03 PM
Islanders talking to Lamoriello:

https://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey/islanders/islanders-lou-lamoriello-1.18508278

HelloNewman
05-21-18, 10:52 PM
No celebrating? Looks like Garth just got his wings clipped:


The source said Lamoriello, who turns 76 on Oct. 21, will be in charge of hockey operations, though whether he will be named president or general manager ó or both ó is still unclear. Regardless of the title, the source said Lamoriello will be allowed to implement his hands-on style of management with final say on hockey matters.


That means the future of current president and general manager Garth Snow, the subject of pointed fan criticism this past season, is also unclear. By extension, it also no longer seems a certainty coach Doug Weight will be retained for a second full season.


https://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey/islanders/lou-lamoriello-islanders-hockey-operations-1.18662515

ymike673
05-22-18, 09:39 AM
Great news for us long suffering Isles fans! Will Lou turn the team around. Maybe yes and maybe no. But it means finally the end of the Garth Snow era.

Donnybaseball72
05-22-18, 10:04 AM
Not so fast. Lou has complete control and final say but Garth is still the "GM" because of an recently reported financial escalator in his contract if he is reassigned to another role. Thanks Wang!

If Lou can't get Tavares resigned then it wasn't meant to be.

ymike673
05-22-18, 10:23 AM
Not so fast. Lou has complete control and final say but Garth is still the "GM" because of an recently reported financial escalator in his contract if he is reassigned to another role. Thanks Wang!

If Lou can't get Tavares resigned then it wasn't meant to be.

Very true. Garth probably will not be fired but as long as he no longer has a say in running the team I can live with it.

ymike673
05-22-18, 11:59 AM
Assistant Leafs GM Mark Hunter also leaving Toronto. Would be great if Lou can bring him to the islanders.

HelloNewman
05-22-18, 12:42 PM
Not so fast. Lou has complete control and final say but Garth is still the "GM" because of an recently reported financial escalator in his contract if he is reassigned to another role. Thanks Wang!I can live with that. Give Garth a desk in the basement with a "GM" nameplate on it and give him a nice Duncan yo-yo to pass the time. Works for me.

Donnybaseball72
05-22-18, 03:44 PM
I can live with that. Give Garth a desk in the basement with a "GM" nameplate on it and give him a nice Duncan yo-yo to pass the time. Works for me.

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/68351211/yeeaahh-if-you-could-move-your-desk-and-boxes-into-the-basement-with-colin-that-would-be-great.jpg

philleotardo
06-05-18, 01:09 PM
Snow and Weight fired, per Arthur Staple. Lamoriello will assume GM job.

ymike673
06-05-18, 01:56 PM
Snow and Weight fired, per Arthur Staple. Lamoriello will assume GM job.

So the season ends up being a success.

philleotardo
06-05-18, 01:59 PM
So the season ends up being a success.

It sounds like they are both being offered positions with the organization.

Donnybaseball72
06-05-18, 02:27 PM
So the season ends up being a success.

Only if JT is also resigned. Snow failed to do that. It's up to Lou. As for Dougie, maybe he can coach the Bridge or be a scout but he lost the team and had no answer for the defensive woes.

Good times!:D

ymike673
06-05-18, 02:30 PM
It sounds like they are both being offered positions with the organization.

As long as Snow does not end up being my ticket rep. Maybe he can drive the Zamboni.

Donnybaseball72
06-05-18, 04:07 PM
As long as Snow does not end up being my ticket rep. Maybe he can drive the Zamboni.

Garth Snowblower?

ymike673
06-05-18, 05:39 PM
Garth Snowblower?

Haha, Good one.

philleotardo
06-06-18, 09:19 AM
Internet consensus is that Tavares was, on some level, tied to Weight and a best case scenario is to trade his rights before July 1st.

Donnybaseball72
06-06-18, 01:00 PM
Internet consensus is that Tavares was, on some level, tied to Weight and a best case scenario is to trade his rights before July 1st.

The guys in Sirius NHL Radio think otherwise and that the chances of resigning him are now greater. These guys have more inside knowledge than a few internet people.

philleotardo
06-06-18, 02:15 PM
The guys in Sirius NHL Radio think otherwise and that the chances of resigning him are now greater. These guys have more inside knowledge than a few internet people.

Easson?

ymike673
06-06-18, 03:29 PM
Internet consensus is that Tavares was, on some level, tied to Weight and a best case scenario is to trade his rights before July 1st.

That really makes no sense. If Tavares signed for 8 years he would expect Weight to be the coach for 8 years? Highly unlikely. Since Lou took over and after yesterday I am really confident that JT will stay with us.

Donnybaseball72
06-06-18, 05:53 PM
Easson?


I don't know.

CanoForPresident
06-06-18, 07:26 PM
The guys in Sirius NHL Radio think otherwise and that the chances of resigning him are now greater. These guys have more inside knowledge than a few internet people.

Not for nothing, but I'd trust some people on the internet over the Sirius NHL guys.

I think he stays FWIW, but he isn't going to take a discount.

Donnybaseball72
06-06-18, 09:13 PM
Not for nothing, but I'd trust some people on the internet over the Sirius NHL guys.

I think he stays FWIW, but he isn't going to take a discount.

I don't expect him to. Somewhere in between Eichel and McDavid's AAV should do it over 8 years.

HelloNewman
06-07-18, 01:29 AM
As for Dougie, maybe he can coach the Bridge:) Bridgeport has a perfectly good AHL coach, Brent Thompson, and I wish him a long and prosperous career in Bridgeport. If Garth were still running things and the Islanders started badly next season, he'd have been the next Islanders coach. Thankfully we don't have to worry about that anymore.


Internet consensus is that Tavares was, on some level, tied to Weight and a best case scenario is to trade his rights before July 1st.Tavares bolting a max offer from the Islanders for the sake of Doug Weight makes zero sense to me. The only issue is they're going to have to pay him with BOTH hands. Unless he has some antipathy to Lamoriello I don't know about I would think that: Max Money + Lamoriello running things = he stays. But we'll see.

HelloNewman
06-07-18, 07:39 AM
Oh yeah, just because I can:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPIdRJlzERo


buh bye Garth

ymike673
06-07-18, 02:21 PM
I don't expect him to. Somewhere in between Eichel and McDavid's AAV should do it over 8 years.

Yes. I am thinking the same thing.