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diehardyankeefan
12-15-09, 05:01 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?id=4740695

Rob Neyer must of been high or is just retarded.

RYMASTER or Ryan_Yankees
12-15-09, 05:06 PM
Jim Edmonds at #12? :roflmao:

diehardyankeefan
12-15-09, 05:12 PM
Jim Edmonds at #12? :roflmao:
I stopped reading it after Abreu was ranked in front of Mariano.

THEBOSS84
12-15-09, 05:14 PM
Scott Rolen ahead of Manny? WTF?

diehardyankeefan
12-15-09, 05:16 PM
Scott Rolen ahead of Manny? WTF?
Javier Vazquez at #29!!!!!! What a joke

Yankee Tripper
12-15-09, 05:17 PM
Nancy at 22 :lol:

Vazquez
12-15-09, 05:23 PM
How the F did Corey Koskie make this list?

sweet_lou_14
12-15-09, 05:55 PM
Extremely bad list. Good lord.

bigjf
12-15-09, 05:59 PM
Top 100? Why not go ahead and name the "Top" 1,000,000 while you're at it?...

delv
12-15-09, 06:01 PM
Looks like Cody Ransom just missed the cut

diehardyankeefan
12-15-09, 06:07 PM
Looks like Cody Ransom just missed the cut
According to Neyer, he probably did.

Stache Fan
12-15-09, 06:12 PM
I like how Moyer was exactly 100. Give the man some respect, will you?

The Yankee Kahuna
12-15-09, 07:05 PM
I give him props, before opening the link i assumed Ortiz was gonna be number 1. It showed real restraint from his part.
Also Zito ahead of Pettitte?

teknetic
12-15-09, 07:36 PM
Jim Edmonds at #12? :roflmao:

I wouldn't put him that far up, but holy crap was he a monster from 2000-2005. A CF'er putting up back-to-back 1.000 OPS seasons is sick. I didn't realize his numbers were that good.

and I'm not really sure how Mauer is 40th.

Poeman
12-15-09, 07:41 PM
Poor list...

Here's my top 10 for this decade Note: Took out anyone who apparently was on steroids

1) Albert Pujols
2) Mariano Rivera
3) Derek Jeter
4) Ichiro Suzuki
5) Manny Ramirez
6) Randy Johnson
7) Johan Santana
8) Ivan Rodriguez
9) Pedro Martinez
10) Joe Mauer

Yankee Fan in Boston
12-15-09, 07:45 PM
Poor list...

Here's my top 10 for this decade Note: Took out anyone who apparently was on steroids

1) Albert Pujols
2) Mariano Rivera
3) Derek Jeter
4) Ichiro Suzuki
5) Manny Ramirez
6) Randy Johnson
7) Johan Santana
8) Ivan Rodriguez
9) Pedro Martinez
10) Joe Mauer


Mauer can't be ranked that high -- he pretty much didn't play for the first half of the decade.

Oh, and as for the steroids thing, you need to look at #5, and probably #8

Poeman
12-15-09, 07:52 PM
Mauer can't be ranked that high -- he pretty much didn't play for the first half of the decade.

Oh, and as for the steroids thing, you need to look at #5, and probably #8

Dude excellent point about those two guys...Totally forgot about that. Just revised it a bit

Mauer is a once in a generation type catcher. He has been the best player in the league the past 3 years with those batting titles. I give him the nod for the second half of the decade.

1) Albert Pujols
2) Mariano Rivera
3) Derek Jeter
4) Ichiro Suzuki
5) Randy Johnson
6) Johan Santana
7) Lance Berkman
8) Pedro Martinez
9) Joe Mauer
10) Roy Halladay

MooseDaGun
12-15-09, 08:04 PM
It's really hard to account for steroids, because for any list you make you could include a guy who used.

My Top 10, regardless of suspected steroid use:

1. Barry Bonds
2. Alex Rodriguez
3. Albert Pujols
4. Manny Ramirez
5. Ichiro Suzuki
6. Johan Santana
7. Chipper Jones
8. Randy Johnson
9. Mariano Rivera
10. Derek Jeter

Yankee Tripper
12-16-09, 11:07 AM
Poor list...

Here's my top 10 for this decade Note: Took out anyone who apparently was on steroids

1) Albert Pujols
2) Mariano Rivera
3) Derek Jeter
4) Ichiro Suzuki
5) Manny Ramirez
6) Randy Johnson
7) Johan Santana
8) Ivan Rodriguez
9) Pedro Martinez
10) Joe Mauer
O'rly?

pleasepassthesoup
12-16-09, 11:17 AM
I like how Moyer was exactly 100. Give the man some respect, will you?

They wanted his ranking to match his age.

teknetic
12-16-09, 01:43 PM
Mauer can't be ranked that high -- he pretty much didn't play for the first half of the decade.

Oh, and as for the steroids thing, you need to look at #5, and probably #8

Three batting titles, a MVP, and solidifying himself as the best catcher in the game by a country mile? Yea, it's enough.

GordonGecko
12-16-09, 02:19 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?id=4740695

Rob Neyer must of been high or is just retarded.
"If he'd stayed at shortstop" (A-Rod), WTF does that have to do with anything

GeorgeCostanza85
12-16-09, 03:05 PM
"If he'd stayed at shortstop" (A-Rod), WTF does that have to do with anything

um if he wouldve stayed at shortstop he wouldn't have date kate hudson.... duhhhh

this list is too sophisticated to understand for people like u and i... let it go and stick with reading tiki barber's books

Chacon
12-16-09, 03:22 PM
"If he'd stayed at shortstop" (A-Rod), WTF does that have to do with anything
A lot. ARod's production at an up the middle position would have him as the best ever.

I'm A Wenner!
12-16-09, 03:27 PM
I don't see what's so complicated about this. I'd probably knock Ichiro! down a few spots, but that's a pretty solid list.

Axon
12-16-09, 04:58 PM
1. Jeter
2. Mariano
3. Bernie
4. Jorge
5. Andy
6. A-Rod
7. Damon
8. Matsui
9. C.C.
10. Tex

You sayin' I'm biased?!!

RYMASTER or Ryan_Yankees
12-16-09, 06:03 PM
Corey Koskie and Randy Winn make the list, but Hideki Matsui doesn't? Huh?

I'm A Wenner!
12-16-09, 06:32 PM
Jim Edmonds at #12? :roflmao:

Unlike you, it appears Neyer is weighting the early part of the decade equally with the end of it. It seems that anyone who declined should have his earlier greatness ignored. Edmonds won 6 gold gloves in CF with a 140 OPS+ for the decade. He was the best CF in baseball of the 00s.

ChewieTobbacca
12-17-09, 04:16 AM
Interesting factoid.. Pujols won the decade NL Triple Crown, despite playing only 9 seasons. I think only Rogers Hornsby has done the same accomplishment in any league

Edmonds #12 isn't that big of a reach. He had a MONSTROUS stretch for a CF'er and was a good defender too

RYMASTER or Ryan_Yankees
12-17-09, 05:49 AM
Unlike you, it appears Neyer is weighting the early part of the decade equally with the end of it. It seems that anyone who declined should have his earlier greatness ignored. Edmonds won 6 gold gloves in CF with a 140 OPS+ for the decade. He was the best CF in baseball of the 00s.

I would think that #12 would be someone who was good for the whole decade, not the first 6 years of the decade.

But the condescension works well for you. Keep up the good work.

jeterdaman
12-17-09, 08:00 AM
Poor list...

Here's my top 10 for this decade Note: Took out anyone who apparently was on steroids

1) Albert Pujols
2) Mariano Rivera
3) Derek Jeter
4) Ichiro Suzuki
5) Manny Ramirez
6) Randy Johnson
7) Johan Santana
8) Ivan Rodriguez
9) Pedro Martinez
10) Joe Mauer

Then why is Manny still on your list?

BronxYanks45
12-17-09, 12:35 PM
ARod should be #1, a few others misplaced on the list

I'm A Wenner!
12-17-09, 01:42 PM
I would think that #12 would be someone who was good for the whole decade, not the first 6 years of the decade.

But the condescension works well for you. Keep up the good work.

He was a sensational player for the first six years of the decade. He was one of the top 3 or 4 players. Being merely good for the duration knocked him down to 12.

Before lecturing me on being condescending, you might want to take a look at the post of yours to which I responded.

NewEraYanks2527
12-17-09, 01:46 PM
Neyer sucks, as does the rest of ESPN. I wish they'd just go bankrupt and close down or something.

I'm A Wenner!
12-17-09, 01:51 PM
Neyer is one of the very best baseball writers working today. But I guess if he doesn't agree with your opinions, he must suck.

Soriambi
12-17-09, 02:16 PM
17 out of the 100 guys (by my count, which might be off) on that list have played for the Yankees. That's nearly 1/5.

DEADSOX
12-17-09, 02:30 PM
That might be the worst list in the history of lists.

bobbymagee
12-17-09, 02:31 PM
Mariano is #24 . What is he shmoking???

GordonGecko
12-17-09, 02:35 PM
That might be the worst list in the history of lists.
Yeah pretty sad stuff

I'm A Wenner!
12-17-09, 02:51 PM
Mariano is #24 . What is he shmoking???

How many relievers even made the list?

RYMASTER or Ryan_Yankees
12-17-09, 04:24 PM
He was a sensational player for the first six years of the decade. He was one of the top 3 or 4 players. Being merely good for the duration knocked him down to 12.

If you say so.


Before lecturing me on being condescending, you might want to take a look at the post of yours to which I responded.

I know what I said, troll.

I'm A Wenner!
12-17-09, 04:48 PM
If you say so.



I know what I said, troll.

Just, wow.

ChewieTobbacca
12-17-09, 07:42 PM
ARod should be #1, a few others misplaced on the list

If A-Rod had stayed at SS he'd probably have a better case for #1, but Pujols by far dominated the last decade. Ignore even the fact that he won 3 MVP's while finishing in the top 4 in voting 8 out of 9 years...

Pujols led the NL in batting average, home runs, and RBI's from 2000-2009 - even after spotting the league a season (he wasn't in MLB in 2000)

The only other players to accomplish the same decade Triple Crown were Ted Williams (1940s), Rogers Hornsby (1920s), and Honus Wagner (1900s).

I'd say that's pretty elite company to be in ;)

MSP
12-17-09, 09:32 PM
I know he only played for five years, but how is Ryan Howard not on that list?

diehardyankeefan
12-17-09, 10:05 PM
Neyer is one of the very best baseball writers working today. But I guess if he doesn't agree with your opinions, he must suck.
I'm sorry but is Bobby Abreu and JD Drew placed over Mariano Rivera and is Carlos Beltran placed over Manny. Also, how the hell does Placido Polanco get into the top 50.

I'm A Wenner!
12-18-09, 01:06 AM
I'm sorry but is Bobby Abreu and JD Drew placed over Mariano Rivera and is Carlos Beltran placed over Manny. Also, how the hell does Placido Polanco get into the top 50.

I can argue with Drew, but Abreu certainly provided more value over the course of the last ten years than Rivera did.

Beltran is a superstar elite player who provided value on the basepaths and on defense. Manny was a great hitter, but that's it.

Polanco was a pretty good hitter and one of the best defenders in baseball during the last ten years.

DEADSOX
12-18-09, 01:18 AM
That list gave me the runs. I'm still dealing with it.

blumj
12-18-09, 10:10 AM
By decades is just a silly way to rank players. Any player who happened to start his career near the beginning of a decade automatically gets a big head start over players who started theirs in the middle of one. Take 2 players with identical careers except one of them made his MLB debut in '00 and the other made his in '05, the first guy finishes 5th and the 2nd guy finishes 50th, so what about them are you really comparing? Their timing? Silly.

Carbon Fiber
12-18-09, 11:18 AM
By decades is just a silly way to rank players. Any player who happened to start his career near the beginning of a decade automatically gets a big head start over players who started theirs in the middle of one. Take 2 players with identical careers except one of them made his MLB debut in '00 and the other made his in '05, the first guy finishes 5th and the 2nd guy finishes 50th, so what about them are you really comparing? Their timing? Silly.

Parents who plan on having athletic children should time their pregnancies better... Let's wait 5 years, honey, so our boy can be the best player of the 30s :lol:

teknetic
12-18-09, 11:50 AM
I can argue with Drew, but Abreu certainly provided more value over the course of the last ten years than Rivera did.

Beltran is a superstar elite player who provided value on the basepaths and on defense. Manny was a great hitter, but that's it.

Polanco was a pretty good hitter and one of the best defenders in baseball during the last ten years.

He penalizes guys for missing the first few years of the decade (Miggy Cabrera and Wright even though they've put up exceptional numbers for 5+ years) and pegs in guys like Polanco and Pudge (terrible since '05) in the top 50. Aramis is ranked far too low also.

All in all, a lot of questionable decisions and hence the criticism. That wasn't very hard.

DontHateOnNumber2
12-19-09, 02:07 AM
That list gave me the runs. I'm still dealing with it.

That's how I feel about a couple of the responses. That list is pretty putrid though.