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Logan
05-01-08, 10:18 AM
How many people are we gonna leave on base? With Arod out, it's even more essential to sign the big lefty slugger. Get him a first base glove or let him DH while letting Damon play 1B.

THEBOSS84
05-01-08, 10:20 AM
While we could use his offense, he is no doubt being black-balled by MLB and it's owners.

No team will sign him

We don't really have room for him anyway.

Logan
05-01-08, 10:21 AM
We don't really have room for him anyway.

Giambi is a load. Let's Frank Thomas him.

JavyVazquezIsSick
05-01-08, 10:24 AM
Co-Sign

cid
05-01-08, 10:29 AM
just say no to bonds.

brosiusbuddy
05-01-08, 10:32 AM
By the time he's in regular season form Arod will be back in the lineup. Bonds is also injury prone and he's what, 52 years old? Do we really want the big story of the final season at Yankee stadium to be Barry Bonds?

If anything, they should have nabbed Frank Thomas while they still had the chance.

Retire21
05-01-08, 10:38 AM
Bonds is also injury prone and he's what, 52 years old?

I think he's actually 70 years old- steroids age one's body rather quickly.

Sixty one
05-01-08, 10:39 AM
I'd rather the Yankees finis last than have them sign the arrogant Bonds. Let him enjoy the blackballing that major league baseball has given him.:mad: :mad:

Since95
05-01-08, 10:42 AM
Do it cash!!

swityak11
05-01-08, 10:43 AM
170 OPS+ last year at age 42.

Any talk of him being broken down is ridiculous. He's still an offensive force. The only reason he's not playing is because of collusion.

YankeeZim
05-01-08, 10:43 AM
no...

cyhughes22
05-01-08, 10:44 AM
How bout no Scott...

webassign
05-01-08, 10:44 AM
get it done Cashman

Mantle'sMutt
05-01-08, 10:47 AM
Let's not and brag that we didn't.

R.V.47
05-01-08, 10:48 AM
I heard Rafael Palmeiro is available too.

cyhughes22
05-01-08, 10:50 AM
I heard Rafael Palmeiro is available too.

We'll have some stiff competition from Viagra for his signiature.;)

Vacca Foeda
05-01-08, 10:58 AM
The Bond market should be avoided right now. Buy Stocks rather.

Torre Must Go
05-01-08, 10:59 AM
I don't think it ever is going to happen, but with the way the offense has looked, I think Bonds would help.

Rastven
05-01-08, 11:11 AM
I'd rather shoot my cat than see Bonds in pinstripes.

yanksphan
05-01-08, 11:17 AM
Count me in. Sign him up.

1936-1939JoeNLou
05-01-08, 11:20 AM
Doesn't this belong in ITL 2?

I wouldn't take Bonds. He carries too much baggage with him. The media would have a field day with him.

JeterRodriguezSheff
05-01-08, 11:20 AM
Do it, I could give a rats ass what other teams think of us.

ShaneTravis
05-01-08, 11:21 AM
LMAO

May 1st and the threads are already cliff jumping.

Mantle'sMutt
05-01-08, 11:31 AM
I'd rather shoot my cat than see Bonds in pinstripes.

I'd rather shoot your cat, too. ;)

montrealer
05-01-08, 11:34 AM
Just say NO.......JHC people.........and back and take a deep breath.......

aeromac76
05-01-08, 11:38 AM
I would, and for why, I'll look at why not and go from there:

Don't sign him because he is arrogant as hell.
Yup, sure is, and in case we have not noticed, we could use a little arrogant swagger right now.

Don't because he'll be the story, the media will have a field day with him.
Oh, so you mean, we'll hear about Bonds instead of how bad Hughes and Kennedy are and how much Hank is ready to explode and how many injuries we have and how Girardi is on the hot seat. Yes he'll be a distraction from all those wonderful stories.

He is old and done
Yes he is old, yes he is done as an OFer. But as a DH, his numbers last year were frightening offensively, he can still bring it with the war clib

It will give people a reason to attack and hate the Yankees more
Not possible, we are already as hated as they come in most non-Yankee fan circles. If not Bonds, we be hated for something else. What's more, I could care less about being hated as long as we win..

teknetic
05-01-08, 11:50 AM
He'd probably see more pitches than half our offense would combined in one game.

NYYFAN
05-01-08, 12:02 PM
Lets leave his HR mark right were it is...

bigjf
05-01-08, 12:03 PM
And as soon as they sign him, the government will decide they're ready to start his trial, thus removing him from the field once again. Whether you think he's being targeted fairly or unfairly, I doubt he'd be allowed to take the field. And what would it cost? Another $20 million?

ShaneTravis
05-01-08, 12:09 PM
And as soon as they sign him, the government will decide they're ready to start his trial, thus removing him from the field once again. Whether you think he's being targeted fairly or unfairly, I doubt he'd be allowed to take the field. And what would it cost? Another $20 million?

Well if entertaining the idea...
You would have to think it would be an incentive contract based on at bats or something. I mean he is out of baseball way out. What contract can his agent base it on?

No Japan or competing offer means you take it or leave it.

Stick Michael
05-01-08, 12:09 PM
I would, and for why, I'll look at why not and go from there:

Don't sign him because he is arrogant as hell.
Yup, sure is, and in case we have not noticed, we could use a little arrogant swagger right now...

It will give people a reason to attack and hate the Yankees more
Not possible...What's more, I could care less about being hated as long as we win..

Legit points. I dunno how I'd feel about the Yankees turning to Bonds in order to give the lineup a...shot in the arm, but arguments against doing so are almost exclusively based on his character issues. His ability to produce when healthy has never been questioned. His days as a servicable outfielder have passed so, personal dislike of him aside, it becomes a matter of whether or not adding another DH will truly help the team. Bonds has always played in the NL and is not accustomed to the role. That bears consideration as well.

James

Jasbro
05-01-08, 12:13 PM
He's been indicted for a felony. No employer -- baseball team or otherwise -- would hire him right now. At least not one in their right mind.

We have enough problems right now without intentionally inflicting the harsh glare of the spotlight he would undoubtedly bring to the team.

No. No, no, no. No.

No.

wang+cano=future
05-01-08, 12:15 PM
Friends don't let friends sign Bonds.

YankeeZim
05-01-08, 12:27 PM
Legit points. I dunno how I'd feel about the Yankees turning to Bonds in order to give the lineup a...shot in the arm, but arguments against doing so are almost exclusively based on his character issues. His ability to produce when healthy has never been questioned. His days as a servicable outfielder have passed so, personal dislike of him aside, it becomes a matter of whether or not adding another DH will truly help the team. Bonds has always played in the NL and is not accustomed to the role. That bears consideration as well.

JamesNo offense intended, but "illegal" steroid use is not a character issue.

ShaneTravis
05-01-08, 12:28 PM
Legit points. I dunno how I'd feel about the Yankees turning to Bonds in order to give the lineup a...shot in the arm, but arguments against doing so are almost exclusively based on his character issues. His ability to produce when healthy has never been questioned. His days as a servicable outfielder have passed so, personal dislike of him aside, it becomes a matter of whether or not adding another DH will truly help the team. Bonds has always played in the NL and is not accustomed to the role. That bears consideration as well.

James

For people pro signing Bonds this is the problem they need to solve. Who gets released? Jason? Can Damon or Matsui learn first? How about Bonds at first?

No way Bonds can play outfield any longer so where do you put him? If DH than someone has to go b/c Matsui is doing a great job at DH and Damon is fine out there in left. That leaves Jason Giambi and do you think they would bench him or release him?

yanksphan
05-01-08, 12:30 PM
No offense intended, but "illegal" steroid use is not a character issue.

You're right - it's an accepted standard.

YankeeZim
05-01-08, 12:33 PM
You're right - it's an accepted standard.By whom? Certainly not the law.

yanksphan
05-01-08, 12:49 PM
By whom? Certainly not the law.

I'd say a large percentage of the MLBPA as well as owners, GMs, trainers, fans, etc.

/sarcasm ;)

cupcollector99
05-01-08, 12:55 PM
Isn't one steroid tainted, overpaid excuse for a DH wasting a roster spot enough? I'd rather have the extra long reliever.

bigwampum
05-01-08, 12:56 PM
Bonds would certainly help the offense. He would help any offense. I just really really don't want to root for him.

In Mo I Trust
05-01-08, 12:58 PM
I'm on board with this.

JavyVazquezIsSick
05-01-08, 01:00 PM
His days as a servicable outfielder have passed

He's actually really not as bad as people make him out to be.

Yankees1962
05-01-08, 01:02 PM
I would rather miss the playoffs then sign Bonds as a Yankee.

bostonyankeefan
05-01-08, 01:02 PM
Release Giambi, eat the money, and sign Bonds. Make Shelley the everyday first baseman.

ARoDfan4life
05-01-08, 01:03 PM
flame on ! (http://eternalfallout.googlepages.com/middle_finger_flame.jpg/middle_finger_flame-full.jpg):mad:

teknetic
05-01-08, 01:04 PM
With ARod signing the mega-contract and the Home Run title being a large focal point in the deal itself..why would the Yanks sign Bonds to just add to it even further?

PeppermintPatty
05-01-08, 01:06 PM
"Sign Bonds"

What! Hell no!

I don't want that creep wearing Yankee pinstripes.
Bad enough we have a bunch of PED's users already on the team.
Giambi,Pettitte,Damon,Ensberg,Farnsworth and lord knows who else is using or used to use is on the team.
"Sign Bonds" F*ck N:mad: !

flymick24
05-01-08, 01:06 PM
in the end, this would only compound our problems

tdel23
05-01-08, 01:08 PM
I would rather miss the playoffs then sign Bonds as a Yankee.

co-signed

JavyVazquezIsSick
05-01-08, 01:08 PM
With ARod signing the mega-contract and the Home Run title being a large focal point in the deal itself..why would the Yanks sign Bonds to just add to it even further?


1) The Yankees are in dire need of offense
2) Bonds is the best hitter in baseball and would play the majority of games in the lefty friendly YS
3) He would cost nothing in terms of prospects or draft picks

surge511
05-01-08, 01:09 PM
That's just what the Yankees need - the Bonds circus to go along with our injuries and the Clemens/Pettitte thing. He probably wouldn't even be very good and be more of a distraction than anything. not worth the trouble.

webassign
05-01-08, 01:10 PM
LF Damon
SS Jeter
RF Abreu
3B Rodriguez
DH Bonds
1B Giambi
C Posada
2B Cano
CF Melky

maybe switch around Abreu and Bonds, but that is a godly lineup. Although Matsui is left out at the moment...


That's just what the Yankees need - the Bonds circus to go along with our injuries and the Clemens/Pettitte thing. He probably wouldn't even be very good and be more of a distraction than anything. not worth the trouble.
That's not even an issue. I don't see anyone dwelling on that.

Nome
05-01-08, 01:11 PM
How many people are we gonna leave on base? With Arod out, it's even more essential to sign the big lefty slugger. Get him a first base glove or let him DH while letting Damon play 1B.
Yeh and lets sign Frank Thomas, Ken Griffey JR and Bernie while we're at it. Oh, I forgot we can only have one DH. Well we need pitching so maybe we need to get Clemens back on our team and Nomo is available as well.

How many washed up players do we want in our lineup?

Any of those I mentioned along with Bonds will be a season long distraction and would guarentee we'd finish out of the postseason.

Any other ideas? Keep them to yourself

Andy

THEBOSS84
05-01-08, 01:12 PM
With ARod signing the mega-contract and the Home Run title being a large focal point in the deal itself..why would the Yanks sign Bonds to just add to it even further?

There are many reasons the Yanks wouldn't sign Bonds. I don't think this would be one of them.

Think about it. The more homers he hits for them now, the better off they are now. They won't prevent themselves from getting better now for something that may or may not occur ten years down the line. Furthermore, I guess you think that Bonds would be hitting many homers for us, otherwise how long would A-rods chase actually be delayed?

Casey37
05-01-08, 01:14 PM
Thanks but no thanks. Barroid carries way too much baggage with him. Yankees need him like they need a hole in the head.

Martini6196
05-01-08, 01:23 PM
Sign him to a 1 yr $1 million dollar deal and let him DH. He would hit 30 homeruns in Yankee Stadium. The Yankees could then trade Matsui for some pitching.

Get it done Cash.

webassign
05-01-08, 01:26 PM
Sign him to a 1 yr $1 million dollar deal and let him DH. He would hit 30 homeruns in Yankee Stadium. The Yankees could then trade Matsui for some pitching.

Get it done Cash.
Well Matsui does have a full NTC. Damon only has a partial one.

PJMPirate
05-01-08, 01:35 PM
"Sign Bonds"

What! Hell no!

I don't want that creep wearing Yankee pinstripes.
Bad enough we have a bunch of PED's users already on the team.
Giambi,Pettitte,Damon,Ensberg,Farnsworth and lord knows who else is using or used to use is on the team.
"Sign Bonds" F*ck N:mad: !

Damon? Ensburg? Farnsworth? Where are you getting this?

ShaneTravis
05-01-08, 01:47 PM
Release Giambi, eat the money, and sign Bonds. Make Shelley the everyday first baseman.

and where are you going to put Matsui or Damon?

Before anyone goes and ships off our best hitter (Matsui) who is going to play first? Not Duncan fulltime, uhh no. If Bonds could play left and Damon first then you would have an argument.

MissingBillyMartin
05-01-08, 02:01 PM
I would rather have Matsui play left over Bonds.
Ugg Bonds...

"I can see a man stepping into the owner's box... OH MY GOD... IT IS BARRY BONDS. I CAN'T BELIEVE IT. BARRY BONDS!"

Later after a mediocre year we will hear he was having an affair with 12 year old. Haven't we learned our lesson?

NewEraYanks2527
05-01-08, 02:20 PM
Friends don't let friends sign Bonds. Thast is signature material.

Jasbro
05-01-08, 02:26 PM
Desperation is a stinky cologne.

YankeeZim
05-01-08, 02:31 PM
I'd say a large percentage of the MLBPA as well as owners, GMs, trainers, fans, etc.

/sarcasm ;)Ahhh..my bad. Subtle nuances escape me. :)

bostonyankeefan
05-01-08, 02:32 PM
and where are you going to put Matsui or Damon?

Before anyone goes and ships off our best hitter (Matsui) who is going to play first? Not Duncan fulltime, uhh no. If Bonds could play left and Damon first then you would have an argument.

I would trade Damon while he still has some value. Let Matsui play LF everyday. Posada can play some games at first, and Bonds could learn to play there on spot duty.

YankeeZim
05-01-08, 02:32 PM
flame on ! (http://eternalfallout.googlepages.com/middle_finger_flame.jpg/middle_finger_flame-full.jpg):mad:Ahahahahahahah

teknetic
05-01-08, 04:10 PM
There are many reasons the Yanks wouldn't sign Bonds. I don't think this would be one of them.

Think about it. The more homers he hits for them now, the better off they are now. They won't prevent themselves from getting better now for something that may or may not occur ten years down the line. Furthermore, I guess you think that Bonds would be hitting many homers for us, otherwise how long would A-rods chase actually be delayed?

I don't think Bonds would smash 35+, but the whole prospect of bringing the HR title back to NY seems like pretty big deal to the Steinbrenners.



1) The Yankees are in dire need of offense


Do we know if he's been working out? The dude's out of baseball for 7+ months now. Our offense is If we do get him, who exactly do we sit?

I guess you can try and find some team to take Damon; shift Giambi to full-time 1B duties, Bonds at DH, Matsui in LF, and call up Gardner. I don't have any preference if we nab him or not, as I enjoy watching a circus show every now and then.

dkman
05-01-08, 04:16 PM
In the off-season I was a big propensity of signing Bonds, but now I'm not so sure. Sure he would OPS over 1.000 at the stadium but where will he play? Matsui has been the teams best hitter thus far with an OPS+ of 156. Damon has been hitting as well. Melky has been productive and I do like his defense. This leaves Abreu as someone who can be taken out of the OF/DH/1B rotation. But I know he should come around. Maybe if Damon, Matsui or Bonds could play 1B we could sign him.

As for his conditioning, I have little doubt that Bonds is in fantastic shape. This is easy to display as well. Just have him run some wind sprints and have him hit in the cage.

The Comic Book Guy
05-01-08, 04:27 PM
I'm not convinced that Bonds would be such a great addition to the offense. Most of his offensive value last year came from his .480 OBP, which was buoyed by 43 IBBs. The 2007 Giants' #5 hitters OPS'd .704 last season; I don't see Barry drawing 132 walks in the Yankees' lineup.

I'm not convinced that Bonds, at the age of 43, still has the bat speed to a be a major contributor when he's actually getting pitched to.

dkman
05-01-08, 04:58 PM
I'm not convinced that Bonds would be such a great addition to the offense. Most of his offensive value last year came from his .480 OBP, which was buoyed by 43 IBBs. The 2007 Giants' #5 hitters OPS'd .704 last season; I don't see Barry drawing 132 walks in the Yankees' lineup.

I'm not convinced that Bonds, at the age of 43, still has the bat speed to a be a major contributor when he's actually getting pitched to.

What about his .565 slugging percentage? It would seem that slugging would go up with better hitters around him.

R.V.47
05-01-08, 05:03 PM
If we sign Bonds he would probably have to DH everyday. That would force us to basically force a platoon between Damon and Matsui at LF, IMO Matsui would have to get more playing time because he is a better hitter. Also, that forces Giambi to play first everyday. This leaves us with maybe the worst defensive team in the league and a 26 million dollar platoon in left field. I think it would create just as many on field problem as off field problems. Plus who knows if Bonds is even in shape to play.

Logan
05-01-08, 05:24 PM
I guess you can try and find some team to take Damon; shift Giambi to full-time 1B duties, Bonds at DH, Matsui in LF, and call up Gardner. I don't have any preference if we nab him or not, as I enjoy watching a circus show every now and then.

Damon is much more valuable to us than Giambi. It should go something like

LF- Damon/Matsui
SS- Jeter
RF- Abreu
3B- Arod
DH- Bonds
1B- Matsui/Damon
C- Posada/Molina
2B- Cano
CF- Melky

Bonds would be a monster in Yankee Stadium.

montrealer
05-02-08, 07:36 AM
The only pinstripes he`ll being wearing will be Federal Pen stipes.

YankeePride1967
05-02-08, 07:41 AM
we need to sign Bonds, Sosa and Palmeiro. We need more roid men!

Logan
05-02-08, 08:58 AM
another great game from the offense

YankeePride1967
05-02-08, 09:21 AM
If we sign Bonds, we then have players who should be DH's. No thanks.

Bern51
05-02-08, 12:06 PM
Sure, Bonds would make the offense better and heroin would make me feel better. I still wouldn't do it.

yankeesnumber1
05-02-08, 12:16 PM
I would rather leave people on base than see Barry Bonds in pin stripes.

Constantino24
05-02-08, 02:27 PM
If the Yankees were to sign Barry Bonds, I would become a Phillies fan.

TheYankee
05-02-08, 05:24 PM
If he could play a position outside of DH, I'd consider it.

CommerceComet
05-02-08, 09:03 PM
I just saw where there was speculation about the Tigers signing Bonds. I doubt they will but if Bonds performs at his recent levels, that would be one scary lineup.

I went to bed last night thinking "Boy, those Tigers sure need a couple of more hitters." :P

DiMaggio5CF
05-02-08, 10:42 PM
I think it's just swell that MLB is taking a moral stand and blackballing the cheater the season after he broke the HR record that brought them tons of money.

apalradio
05-02-08, 10:53 PM
Yes, absolutely. Gary U.S Bonds would sing a killer national anthem. Or a knockout 7th inning stretch God Bless America.

Blazer
05-03-08, 07:05 AM
I don't know if Bonds would sign with the Yanks. I think his dad had a grudge against the team after they traded him.

Zimmer's Helmet
05-03-08, 09:59 AM
I don't know if Bonds would sign with the Yanks. I think his dad had a grudge against the team after they traded him.

I don't think Barry is in any position to refuse offers at this point.

Besides, if he won't sign with the Yankees because they traded his dad Bobby over 32 years ago; then he won't be willing to sign with about half the teams in baseball since they all traded Bobby Bonds at one point or another.

The back of Bobby Bonds baseball card reads like the Bobby Bonds U.S. tour from 1974-1981

mdoats
05-06-08, 10:45 PM
I love how the fact that Barry Bonds wasn't signed this season is a result of collusion in the MLBPA's eyes rather than just the fact that no team wants to deal with all the crap that comes along with Bonds.

Link (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3384504)

KeithF40
05-07-08, 01:49 AM
This just looks like another Clemens signing.

He is not going to play the rest of the year, and on top of that has already missed a month.

Sure he is a great hitter but he's gonna have to play DH which is just gonna clog up our bench even more with old guys who can't play the field. Matsui is having a very good year at DH, now we are gonna have to move him to left and then lose our only leadoff hitter in Damon as Girardi seems to have a love affair with Giambi, see him hitting fifth every game, or rather not hitting in the fifth spot.

Bonds IS being black balled, every AL team would love to have him other than Bos and ChiWS.

I could of definitely seen the Angels signing him, he would of been perfect over there, but hes being blackballed, who cares anyway, does he really want to deal with all the crap he's gonna face on the road and even at home from fans that didn't want him to get signed.

KeithF40
05-07-08, 01:51 AM
Making money is the bottom line. Winning helps, having Bonds on your team helps. But as that makes money for individual teams it hurts the league as a whole. So the league blackballs Bonds and the league prospers.

KeithF40
05-07-08, 01:53 AM
Yes DiMag it is ALL about money. We all know that, and we are all pawns in their big game, buying tickets, jerseys, visiting forums, watching the teams on cable, I should stop watching sports but then what am I going to do, live a productive life?

yank4life2005
05-07-08, 06:18 AM
Just release Giambi mid-season and sign Bonds to DH. :P